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Old 06-16-2016, 10:53 AM   #1
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Nissan Diesel

Just watched a review of the new nissan titan with diesel motor. It was pulling a big heavy trailer up a steep grade. Seemed to handle it without any trouble.
Does anybody have this truck? I heard originally they were too wimpy to tow a 30' Airstream.
Would like to hear from someone with real world experience.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:08 PM   #2
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:11 PM   #3
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I pull my trailer with the Nissan Armada w/ tow package and have no problems, despite my reservation of a heavy hitch weight 833lbs. I checked the Diesel Titans specs & WOW they look great. I'm curious what the fuel economy comes in at.

I shouldn't have seen this.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:20 PM   #4
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The Cummins engine in the new Titan XD makes as much power and torque as our 6.0 Ford powerstroke, in a truck that is a bit smaller and lighter than the F350 dually.
The Nissan is going to pull any A/S made very easily.

I have not driven the new Titan, but I have looked them over closely at the dealer. Looks like a nice truck for sure.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:26 PM   #5
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I'm just waiting for enough of them to be out there so that the dealers will budge off of MSRP. Still on the fence whether I'll go diesel or the new 5.6 gas motor with 375hp/401ft-lbs.

I have towed my 1986 31' Sovereign about 70000 miles now with my 2004 Titan but at 206,000 miles, it is time for a new one.

The 2016 gas version will give me 1100# more payload, the diesel 600# more. Might move up to a cap instead of a tonneau!
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:35 PM   #6
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Plenty of power for any current Airstream, glad to see smaller diesels in these half-ton sized trucks for towing. It's the multi-speed transmissions that make these smaller diesels work very well, and appropriate differential gear ratios that can pull any hill.
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The Nissan xd is a solid looking truck but the problem is it gets worse fuel economy the a Ram 2500 and costs the same or more. There is almost no aftermarket support out there for it and Nissan is new to diesels in the US. So there techs aren't very experinced with the diesel emissions systems.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:45 PM   #8
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Just can't see buying the Fiat-Chrysler despite the Cummins powerplant. I have just had bad experience after bad experience with the Big Three...
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Pay full price for a newly designed truck with a newly designed Diesel engine? Sounds like you're paying a lot of money to help the manufacturer work the bugs out of their product.


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Pay full price for a newly designed truck with a newly designed Diesel engine? Sounds like you're paying a lot of money to help the manufacturer work the bugs out of their product.


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It must be a good business model for us. We all paid a lot of money for a new trailer based on very old build methods that still tends to be full of production faults.
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Old 06-20-2016, 09:55 PM   #11
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My 2004 was the first year of a new truck with a new powerplant. It is sitting outside with 206,000 miles on it.

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Old 06-21-2016, 05:06 AM   #12
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This was no ad. They were reviewing a travel trailer pulling it with the Nissan.
I believe the guy reviewing it was an experienced rver that had no reason to promote the truck.
I 'm leaning towards the Dodge with the Cummins but while researching came across the video of the Nissan.
I agree that buying a first year model is risky. Bought a GMC Terrain the first year it was produced and have had a lot of problems.
Been having trouble responding ut all seems well now.
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It must be a good business model for us. We all paid a lot of money for a new trailer based on very old build methods that still tends to be full of production faults.
Excellent point!
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I purchased the Nissan Titan XD in Feb. Replaced my Ram 2500 6.4 gasser. Now have 11,000 miles on the truck. No problems at all. Pull the 2014 27fb with no problem. Also pull a goose neck work trailer 11,000 lbs load. 11mpg towing, 21 mpg open road, 17 mpg mixed. The ride is much smoother than the Ram. But of course this truck is not a 3/4 ton. I choose the pro 4x with leather heated and cooled seat. So nearly tricked out as much as the platinum edition. Not only is a good towing truck but also a good ride with out a load. Very pleased.
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Old 06-23-2016, 05:38 PM   #15
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If you research that "Cummins" you find it has more in common with the diesels found in your nearest Mercedes-Benz SUV than what's found in the 2006 Dodge 3500 passing you on the interstate, pulling 4 cars on its trailer. Those Cummins are legendary, making a pickup truck look like an ant hauling around something massive. Unfortunately due to EPA regulations those diesels are not built anymore and we are left with choking clean diesels that require major overhauls after 100k miles or sooner.

But if not comparing the Nissan xd to a pre-dpf Cummins, they are a great engine for running a boat or trailer a little ways out of town.
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Bought a Titan XD with the Cummins just after Memorial Day. Towed our 2014 25 EB with it twice now, each time about 200 miles round trip. It tows great. Felt more powerful the second time. Now have about 2600 miles on the truck. It is my daily driver commuting in heavy traffic too. Rides nearly as good as the Mercedes GL350 I traded it in for.
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Go buy a nice used 2009 Chevy 2500HD with the duramax and Allison trans for that kind of money. I have an 05 and it drives like a Cadillac, turns well, great interior, Reliable, and 2009 was the last year before all the DEF emissions crap. I can't fathom why people buy 1/2 ton trucks, you can't even put a ton of gravel back there or do any REAL work with them. Maybe it's just cause I'm a hick and have to tow 10k plus often but, it just doesn't make sense to spend that and not get a real HD truck.

And I've owned a Titan... Great engine, but worst overall drivetrain I've ever owned. Bought the duramax in 09 after the Titan and I wouldn't trade it for anything!
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Go buy a nice used 2009 Chevy 2500HD with the duramax and Allison trans for that kind of money. I have an 05 and it drives like a Cadillac, turns well, great interior, Reliable, and 2009 was the last year before all the DEF emissions crap. I can't fathom why people buy 1/2 ton trucks, you can't even put a ton of gravel back there or do any REAL work with them. Maybe it's just cause I'm a hick and have to tow 10k plus often but, it just doesn't make sense to spend that and not get a real HD truck.

And I've owned a Titan... Great engine, but worst overall drivetrain I've ever owned. Bought the duramax in 09 after the Titan and I wouldn't trade it for anything!
Actually you want an early 2007 model...before Exhaust particulate filters were mandated. Also, FYI, my 1500 Chebby will haul 2034# of gravel. Pretty sure that's a ton, isn't it?

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Agreed that 07 is the best, dpf and def emissions systems are sucking the life out of all these great trucks. I've slowly done all the emissions delete stuff on my truck and it's never run better! 180K and I cannot see this thing skipping a beat in the next 100K other than normal stuff.

About your 1500- I'd call that nearly a ton. You can haul 2034# minus your weight and that of any crew and any other equipment on board, and you CANNOT tow a trailer while loaded. What happens when you need to pick up a load of gravel and a mini-ex at the same time?

Chevy 1500s are undoubtedly the most HD of the 1/2tons. I also have a 2004 F150 that I refuse to put more than 1K in, its kind of useless for anything other than tooling around the ranch. On 1/2 ton trucks usually the weight rides on the axles and I would never want to max those "little" parts out.

Honestly, many vehicles will be fine to tow an AS with, but if it's costing near $50K and taking up a spot in my driveway, it will for sure be a proper HD truck that can do what I need. Plus, just look at the resale on the HD diesels, I bought my 05 for $20K in 09 and could probably sell it for that today.
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Agreed that 07 is the best, dpf and def emissions systems are sucking the life out of all these great trucks. I've slowly done all the emissions delete stuff on my truck and it's never run better! 180K and I cannot see this thing skipping a beat in the next 100K other than normal stuff.

About your 1500- I'd call that nearly a ton. You can haul 2034# minus your weight and that of any crew and any other equipment on board, and you CANNOT tow a trailer while loaded. What happens when you need to pick up a load of gravel and a mini-ex at the same time?

Chevy 1500s are undoubtedly the most HD of the 1/2tons. I also have a 2004 F150 that I refuse to put more than 1K in, its kind of useless for anything other than tooling around the ranch. On 1/2 ton trucks usually the weight rides on the axles and I would never want to max those "little" parts out.

Honestly, many vehicles will be fine to tow an AS with, but if it's costing near $50K and taking up a spot in my driveway, it will for sure be a proper HD truck that can do what I need. Plus, just look at the resale on the HD diesels, I bought my 05 for $20K in 09 and could probably sell it for that today.
We are on the same page and have nothing to disagree about.. I was just pokin' a stick at ya!

The 2034 includes a driver and full fuel, but nothing else. So, if I arrive at the quarry with just me and fuel I actually can put in 2004 pounds of gravel. 1/2 tank of fuel...Almost 2100# of gravel!

Moot point anyway, no gravel in my truck. It was bought to be a Caddy with an extra large open air trunk. I demo'd all the configurations before choosing my "retirement keeper truck". No question the 2500 Dmax is the best of the lot. 2500 gas was better for payload, but I just didn't want the old powertrain. It works fine, no issues and pretty bullet proof, just a bit antiquated for my taste. And to cap it off, unfortunately, every time I demo'd a 2500, my wife's sciatica would flare up. Just enough higher and different twist to get in that it wouldn't work, long term.

I LOVE, LOVE the 6.2L w/8 speed Maxtow. Where I do 90 - 95% of my towing it does 90% of the job of the DMax, and only gets 1 mpg less while towing. I am under weight on all specs with ALL my toys loaded, but just by a hundred pounds on the rear axle.

It is definitely a more pleasant daily solo driver and the wife actually likes trucks (or at least this one) now. And you're right, I could have gotten an LT Dmax with just a few creature comforts for what I got the LTZ loaded Maxtow 1500 for. That was a wash. Maintenance will be cheaper with the 1500....fuel higher.
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