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Old 06-02-2015, 12:15 AM   #15
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SeaAirstream - my own experience with tongue weight on a 27FB International was as follows:-

Catalogue - 770lbs
With options - dealer estimate - 825lbs (2nd AC, 50A)
With options - "as weighed" at factory - 844lbs (I provided the VIN to the factory)
My own "as weighed" at home exactly as delivered - 900lbs (should have matched factory....?!).

I made some mods to the AS and had tongue weight down to about 650lbs with an Eaz-lift hitch (verified on CAT scale)
I'm now using a ProPride hitch which weighs in about 100lbs more than the Eaz-Lift. Tongue weight is around 750lbs fully loaded with water and all our normal gear (scale verified).

Clearly, you should expect something more than the catalogue values for tongue weight. I did a lot of trawling of these forums for tongue weight data and just about every post I found indicated higher than catalogue.

All is not lost though if you want to stick with your current TV AND feel the need to reduce tongue weight based on your research. Tongue weight reduction is possible, depends on how much time/money you are willing to spend to get there. The simple/easy option a lot of people go for is to "just" buy a TV with more payload/tongue weight capacity. In the end it's very much a personal decision.

Would it be possible to articulate what you feel is the best things to do to get ones tongue wright down.
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Old 06-02-2015, 01:15 PM   #16
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We opted not to tow our 25' EB with our LR3 for the very reasons you've articulated. These threads go around and around but I think it boils down to modifying your vehicle's hitch (the LR3/4 hitch is odd), installing a brake controller and then ignoring Land Rover's max weights. If you're comfortable doing that, go for it. I wasn't comfortable with it. Either way, make sure you have roadside assistance that covers trailer towing (AAA does not by default so you should give them a call)

If you decide a vehicle change is in order, go check out the Yukon Denali or Expedition Platinum. Neither is as refined as the LR4 but both will tow your new trailer if you pack light.
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Old 06-02-2015, 02:36 PM   #17
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We use a Ford Ecpedition limited EL 4x4 to tow,it does a great job and is very pleasent to be in!
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Old 06-02-2015, 07:44 PM   #18
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Would it be possible to articulate what you feel is the best things to do to get ones tongue wright down.
Arcticfox - take a look at this thread. Lots of discussion here on options (batteries, spare tires, propane bottles, load distribution in the AS) and some actual weights I collected during my decision making process. Towards the end are some pictures of the actual mods I did.
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:17 PM   #19
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This is a great thread @ohiobrits and interesting how the weight changed based on location. I am going to do the basic set-up on my LR4 (CURT hitch with WD) and of course brake control, then tow it from the dealership right to the scale. I opted against heavily modifying just yet to see what the weight is like and how much I like towing with the LR4. Our trips for the summer are mostly sub-1K trips and local in Washington (places we know), so going to take it slow and see how it goes. Then decide what truck or large SUV (e.g, Yukon) we decide to target for the long term. Safety first, then LOTs of fun is the plan.

I will update the string with pictures of our set-up and departure from the lot...
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Sounds like a reasonable plan. Let us know how it goes!
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Old 06-03-2015, 08:06 AM   #21
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SeaStream - good plan. You may like it just fine as it is.
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We were also able to go to a weight station the next day after picking up the 23D before really driving anywhere and it was reassuring to see that the right stuff seemed to be going on with the weight distribution system. Post it so we can sort of compare : )
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Will do. I'll post the readings from the weigh station. There won't be anything in the trailer and the WD will be on, so should be a pretty accurate dry weight, albeit the dealer will likely provide full LP tanks.
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SeaAirstream... I opted to keep one of the full propane bottles at home while I travel. I too am evaluating my current setup so lightening the load wherever possible. Also doing 100% of packing in the back of the trailer and very little in the bed of the truck. Pulling a 27 Eddie Bauer that is tongue heavy by nature. (15% dry - so my assumption is they encourage back loading in the EB toy hauler)
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Good looking rig, with a couple happy looking campers. How did you find your dealing with Airstream NW. Is Danny Quintero still around there?
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Good for you. What a thrill! Great looking camper, TV and family. Joe
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