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Old 10-10-2013, 02:31 PM   #15
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I have experience backing up and have concluded that one should never, ever, in a million years, back up with out a spotter. And the spotter needs a minimum of two signals that you both understand. Stop and go. The spotter must also understand that if he or she cannot see you in your mirror, you cannot see the spotter. That's it. I know a bunch of us have learned this the $ way. Jim
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:58 PM   #16
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Even the "small" motor is over 300 horsepower.
I don't see a problem.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:54 PM   #17
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A little bit of correction goes a long way when backing up a trailer that has wheels so close to the hitch. ( I think it's true for bigger trailers, but maybe not as much, as I have no experience with the huge trailers )
The longer trailers are a lot more forgiving. I was terrified not so much of towing my 34' but backing it up. It turns out that it is really no big deal*. The three axles turn the beast smooth and gentle, and because it is so long you can see where it is going in your mirrors.

Not that I ever back up without a spotter, if I can possibly help it. Nearly went into a low hanging tree branch a week ago.

*Except when it is. Like three weeks ago, when try as I might I could not get it lined up with its parking space. After 30 minutes, took a 10 minute break, walked away and did it first time when I returned.
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:38 PM   #18
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I have experience backing up and have concluded that one should never, ever, in a million years, back up with out a spotter. And the spotter needs a minimum of two signals that you both understand. Stop and go. The spotter must also understand that if he or she cannot see you in your mirror, you cannot see the spotter. That's it. I know a bunch of us have learned this the $ way. Jim
Jim is CORRECT! I have two blemishes in my otherwise beautiful Tundra to prove it. I received both backing up without a spotter (solo, no trailer). The problem is made worse by the Tundra being HUGE and I have a cap with tinted glass, so visibility is terrible.

BTW, I love my Tundra and you will love yours. It is a great TV.

I have the 5.7L with 2wd. I average 13.5 mpg towing gently but my trailer only weighs 5k loaded.

As others have said, make use of the tranny when driving in the mountains. It saves the brakes and gives you much more braking capacity.

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Old 10-11-2013, 01:38 AM   #19
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Thanks again everyone. As far as backing my trailer is concerned, my plan is to never do it again. Ever. As long as I live.
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Old 10-11-2013, 02:43 AM   #20
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My dented bumper is not from backing.
My dent came from towing a cargo trailer and forgetting to latch the coupler on the ball.
I realized what I had done, but was too stubborn to stop and latch the coupler.
I thought I could make it to the house.
I almost did make to the house before I hit a pothole and the trailer came off the truck.
I panicked and hit the brakes.
When I did that, the truck stopped but the trailer did not.
Y'all know the rest of the story.
All this to be a good Samaritan and help someone move for free...
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:57 PM   #21
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Thanks all, hooked up the trailer today for a short trip around town to get a feel, I felt a lot more comfortable than with my last vehicle. Then promptly jack knifed backing it in and put a nice big dent in my shiny new bumper like an idiot. Sigh.
Save yourselves some SERIOUS money!! Do NOT attempt backing without a good plan AND a good spotter and communication planning. Those aluminum panels are relatively "cheap" but not the labor cost to do the repair correctly. Those "character" marks are ugly and hard to look at every time you see 'em!
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:42 AM   #22
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I have experience backing up and have concluded that one should never, ever, in a million years, back up with out a spotter. And the spotter needs a minimum of two signals that you both understand. Stop and go. The spotter must also understand that if he or she cannot see you in your mirror, you cannot see the spotter. That's it. I know a bunch of us have learned this the $ way. Jim
And this is a big marriage saving idea for backing up. (Which would cost even more)

Sounds like you have a good setup. That's along with the other opinions already offered. My jackknife broke a taillight first not touching the bumper.
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