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Old 03-08-2016, 10:01 AM   #29
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Shiny, what's the tongue weight on your 27fb?

I have the same unit but the TW is escaping me at the moment
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:39 AM   #30
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Shiny, what's the tongue weight on your 27fb?

I have the same unit but the TW is escaping me at the moment

I weighed the tongue on my 27FB flying cloud when empty and with "almost" a full propane load. Can't remember the number but it was within 5% of factory spec. And I figure using bathroom scale method is not any more accurate than that anyway. Specs are on the airstream site.

But some on the forums have seen weights a lot higher than spec. That is why I weighed mine. Also obtained axle weights when fully loaded so I could adjust WD hitch. J


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Old 03-08-2016, 12:08 PM   #31
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Plasma800 -

Our Pete, a Flying Cloud 27FB has a tongue weight right around 950 lbs. I've never weighed it with anything other than bath scale method, but based on ProPride jack settings and truck attitude, it doesn't change much trip to trip. Of course that could vary widely owner to owner based on packing.

We pretty much load it identically whether we're doing a 3 night weekend or 10+ night trip (maybe a few more clothes for longer trip). Having made 4 trips to the barn this morning, my arms say we load about 200 lbs on for a trip in addition to the 300 lbs that stay's in Pete all the time.

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i guess that sounds about right, for some reason i had it in my mind around 400-700, but I'm way off.

My sticker on my 15 ford says right around 1500 lbs of payload, and that's with the max tow package. I haven't tried towing with it yet as I still have the hitch all setup for my 2500hd, but the wife and I are considering a month long excursion in the summer, and I just "like" the Ford more than my base model chevy...

but it almost seems like I might be pushing it? maybe not, all that's in the truck really would be me, her, two 20 lb dogs and probably a generator and some other light junk.

We travel light in the trailer, that's for sure. We still have yet to store a single thing under the bed, as a for instance.
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Plasma800 -

Our Pete, a Flying Cloud 27FB has a tongue weight right around 950 lbs. I've never weighed it with anything other than bath scale method, but based on ProPride jack settings and truck attitude, it doesn't change much trip to trip. Of course that could vary widely owner to owner based on packing.

We pretty much load it identically whether we're doing a 3 night weekend or 10+ night trip (maybe a few more clothes for longer trip). Having made 4 trips to the barn this morning, my arms say we load about 200 lbs on for a trip in addition to the 300 lbs that stay's in Pete all the time.

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i guess that sounds about right, for some reason i had it in my mind around 400-700, but I'm way off.

My sticker on my 15 ford says right around 1500 lbs of payload, and that's with the max tow package. I haven't tried towing with it yet as I still have the hitch all setup for my 2500hd, but the wife and I are considering a month long excursion in the summer, and I just "like" the Ford more than my base model chevy...

but it almost seems like I might be pushing it? maybe not, all that's in the truck really would be me, her, two 20 lb dogs and probably a generator and some other light junk.

We travel light in the trailer, that's for sure. We still have yet to store a single thing under the bed, as a for instance.
Hi, [just for comparison] My 25' Safari has a tongue weight of 900 lbs. My 2014 F-150 has the Max Tow package and a payload of 1,745 lbs. It is my wife and I and ONE 20 lb dog. I also have a generator, tools and supplies in the bed. Our first trip with my new F-150 was a cross country trip for 3 1/2 months and over 13,000 miles towing our trailer. It was a fantastic trip and my F-150 did a great job towing. There was never a lack of power.
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Hey all, just a quick update - first trip wth the F150 this weekend and I gotta say - it was a BREEZE. The only real complaint I have is that when towing in the Ozarks where we live. and have a lot of short steep hills and curves, the downshifting in the Tow/Haul mode was annoying and not very smooth. Other than that, we went about 85 miles each way and most of the time could not tell I had a trailer hooked up. Also pulled a couple of steep grades (probably 10-12%) a mile or two long and it sat in 3rd gear at about 2500 rpm. Got about 12 mpg without much open road.
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Old 04-03-2016, 05:22 PM   #35
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We returned last week from SW FL. We have a '15 F-150 Screw w/ 5.5' box and the 3.5 Ecoboost engine. As usual, we pulled our '02 Classic w/ slide. Its about 8400 # empty and ~9000 w/ FW tank full. I have pulled this trailer with my '10 F-150 w/ 5.4 V8 to FL 6 times. There is very little similarity between the V8 and the Ecoboost! The Ecoboost is a pulling fool! It would be a gear higher and often 1,000 rpm less than the 5.4 would be when in the hilly areas. I tow faster than most here on the forum. I run 71-72 mph on the interstates, so my mileage is not any better than the 5.4 at around 8-9.5 mpg. But the performance is simply amazing! I liked my '10 F-150 a LOT but I LOVE this truck - and so does my wife!!!!

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What kind of mileage should a person expect with a 2016 F150 3.5 EcoBoost and 30 ft. FC, driving reasonably around the country?

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If you plan on 10 mpg you will be pretty close. While some engine/transmission combinations are slightly more efficient than others, it still takes "X" amount of energy to move your TV and Trailer down the road.

Diesel fuel has higher energy density per gallon so those motors get higher mpg.

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Thanks to the info shared on this thread I am actively shopping for a 2013/2014 F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I've found a tempting example but the Ford window sticker for this particular VIN indicates that the truck has the "Trailer Package" (as opposed to the Max Tow) and standard 3.31 axle. I assume that the axle is not of the limited slip or locking variety.

What are your opinions on this? Is it worth waiting for a vehicle with the max tow and/or the lower axle ratio? I plan to pull a 25FB.
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It would help a lot if you told us what size trailer you intend to tow. It would also be a good idea to look at the loading sticker on the driver's side door jamb and check the payload.

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Thanks to the info shared on this thread I am actively shopping for a 2013/2014 F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost. I've found a tempting example but the Ford window sticker for this particular VIN indicates that the truck has the "Trailer Package" (as opposed to the Max Tow) and standard 3.31 axle. I assume that the axle is not of the limited slip or locking variety.

What are your opinions on this? Is it worth waiting for a vehicle with the max tow and/or the lower axle ratio? I plan to pull a 25FB.

Hi, Max Tow should give you 3:73's, tow mirrors, and a higher payload. You can change the mirrors. You can lock out sixth gear with the 3:31's. But you cannot change the payload.
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Well I will chime in but not with a 30' or around the country info.- yet. I get, so far, the same as my 4.6L 3V '09 Ford towing. It had the same transmission and final drive 3.55--12mpg on flat ground @65mph. I cannot wait to get more towing time and experience with hills. I KNOW the '15 3.5EB is definitely more powerful. I use mine as my daily driver. In town I am getting 2mpg better mileage and highway so far, varied results from 2-4 mpg better than my 2009 F-150 not towing. My '09 had the trailer tow package instead of max tow. It was fine for my 980 tongue but with a 1540# payload. Personal towing experience is limited at this point. I have noticed that the engine is sensitive to pedal action. Pumping gas, accelerating, etc greatly impact mileage comparatively speaking. Also, I am learning to try and stay under 2000 rpm when taking off from a stop. It seems to make a big difference. The amazing thing is though, when I need power and slam it, it is as if the truck lifts up and darts especially in sport mode- so different from the other truck.
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It would help a lot if you told us what size trailer you intend to tow. It would also be a good idea to look at the loading sticker on the driver's side door jamb and check the payload.

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Hi Mike,
To answer your question - a 25'FB; probably a Flying Cloud. That is the plan at any rate. That is an altogether separate search effort since it will be second-hand and date back as far as 2006 vintage. I suspect finding the TV will be easier.
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