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Old 07-23-2014, 08:10 PM   #15
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:19 PM   #16
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Learned to drive in one of these. Went like this.... first gear (rummmmm) lasted 2 seconds to 5 mph, second gear (crunch, crunch, crunch......), first gear......

Linkage on those bus's to the transmission was terrible.
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Interesting video. Very impressive show by the Ford. I never knew that it was important to race up a hill while towing a trailer. I guess it is to appeal to the testosterone thought process in me. I'd bet that the RAM was EGT limiting in the (wrong) gear selected... .
Well, since that's the J2807 standard test that they all have to pass, the only way they can say "mine is better" is to race 'em.
The test just says they have to be able to do it, maintain 40mph, with no warnings displayed to the driver.
If you look at the video, you can see that the diesel pulls off the line faster...but can't maintain it, which is just what should be expected; it doesn't have a lot of horsepower, which is a measure of work over time; it does have a lot of torque.
I also thought it was interesting how they underscored the fact that the F150 is "considerably less than 5000lbs", so it has less work to do than the others.
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:08 AM   #18
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Finally watched the video. Okay, that's a pretty impressive showing - the V6 Ecoboost beat a V8 by several seconds. I'm less impressed by it beating the Ram diesel, but it's still interesting. Assuming the test was done legitimately, of course.

I know people do it, and I've even seen them myself, but I'm still floored by a V6 Ecoboost towing a 30' trailer like ours. I like the idea of a better-mannered, cheaper truck.
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Learned to drive in one of these. Went like this.... first gear (rummmmm) lasted 2 seconds to 5 mph, second gear (crunch, crunch, crunch......), first gear......

Linkage on those bus's to the transmission was terrible.
It was my first, as well. I found that the key to this was to not try and "fight" the shifter; just apply a little pressure in the general direction of the gear position you're aiming for, and as you let off the clutch (gently!), it will just pop into gear by itself.
Even back then (early 80's) when there were tons of them around, it was still kind of a "novelty", and friends would want to drive it...watching them flail that looong sloppy stick around, trying to find the gears, was a hoot!I

Its fun looking at those old specs...must be 60's vintage. Mine was a 73, and had the Porsche motor...went a heckofalot faster than 56mph (well..given enough acceleration time. LOL).
That payload, though--~1800lbs--beats the heck out of my Dodge pickup.
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Those old Nazi foot lockers could take a royal butt whooping and keep on rolling. I've owned a few Beetles in my lifetime. Easy to work on and fun to drive.
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Old 07-24-2014, 12:05 PM   #21
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I had a few old bangers back in the '60s that were reluctant to go up or down a gear.

I usually found that double-clutching did the trick. This means to change first into neutral, let out the clutch briefly, push in the clutch and slide it into the next gear you wanted.

I believe this got the gears rotating at a compatible speed.
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Old 07-24-2014, 12:13 PM   #22
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There is a black square rubber bushing in the shift linkage that deteriorates and crumbles away, making it nearly impossible to shift until you replace it.
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As we're off topic a bit, I owned a Ford Econoline 1965 6 cyl cab over pick up. Similar long travel slop master 3 on the tree. Never towed but it carried over 1 ton of airfreight back to work one time. It loaded the rear AND front axle that is where it shined. Also hauled in lots of firewood from the woods too.

I guess I'm kinda set, not looking to replace my Dodge Cummins, anytime. Not looking to race you up the hill, just pull the hill all day long if necessary. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea just like our AS is not for everyone either.

But it works for me.

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Love that Transporter! Have you entertained the thought of putting a Porsche engine in the rear of it? When I was very young, a few years back, helped a fellow VW enthusiast, install a Chevy Corvair engine in a VW van. Ran pretty good. Sorry to get off-topic, was overwhelmed by the Transporter.
The rage now is the Subaru boxer engine swap for power, modern, reliable, and power galore. Not for me though! With those standard 1960 VW safety features, like touch your toes to the back of the headlight bucket while shifting, 56 mph top end is plenty. As far as the three test trucks in the video, I'd rather see that test in ten years after they have a couple hundred thousand miles each. I'm not one to jump out there and grab the newest technology. I'd much rather have the tried and true. I'll let others test out the Eco-Boost, Eco-Diesel, and the Eco-Mega-Hybrids with a side of fries, then in about ten years when everyone else can give me their long term results I might bite into it all. I do hope they all work out great for everyone all the same, which ever brand they choose.
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Looks good physically and on paper, but until Consumer Reports or some other NEUTRAL party does this kind of test, my answer will be "meh". I mean the video is Ford Marketing material.
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Mine is still better than yours, tests don't mean anything unless mine is the winner...

Seriously though folks, I posted a few years back on this very forum how lucky we are in this day & age to the quality and options of the tow vehicles (and autos in general) that are now offered to us consumers.

Looking at my brothers VW bus that he restores, we have sure come a long way!!!
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