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Old 07-02-2013, 10:19 PM   #15
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Smart man, or just lease a new one yourself and pay $2-300 less per month and no sales tax except on the monthly payment. At the end of the lease if you like the truck, buy it at the residual price on the lease or turn it in and lease another new vehicle. I've been doing this for 20 years.
Personal thing, but I don't much like debt and the associated payments - the only one we've got is our mortgage and I am trying to pay that one down as fast as we can.

For most everything else we try to save up and pay cash. Goes for cars as well as toys, like AS trailers. It means that brand new is often out of our price range but I can live with that
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:26 PM   #16
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Buy the duramax. After being a gm tech for 12 years, I've never had a customer say "gee I wish I had bought a gas engine instead"
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:28 PM   #17
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Hands down the best TV is a 1990 Chevy Spectrum, with a class 3 hitch, using an air ride system and a Hensley hitch set up, with hydraulic breaks on the trailer, no shocks, and ST tires. I keep a 10,000 lbs rated electric wench on the front, just in case I have to go up hill.

Now we're is my stick and that horse?
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:32 PM   #18
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I'm afraid that I have to cast my vote with the Dmax crowd. We pulled Lucy (25Fb/7400#) many, many miles with two 3/4 ton Suburbans, and was quite satisfied. When we decided to add a 3000# truck camper to the mix, the diesel became an absolute necessity. That was almost two years ago, and all that I can say is that I will never buy another gasoline powered tow vehicle again. The diesel just does a better job of pulling and stopping with a load.

As far as new vs. used, we ordered new so that we could get exactly what we wanted. It's almost impossible to find a one ton, single rear wheel, crew cab, long bed, snow plow package Duramax on the used market. We had to wait nine weeks for the truck to come in, but it was worth it, and we even got it in red.

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Old 07-02-2013, 11:38 PM   #19
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Hands down the best TV is a 1990 Chevy Spectrum, with a class 3 hitch, using an air ride system and a Hensley hitch set up, with hydraulic breaks on the trailer, no shocks, and ST tires. I keep a 10,000 lbs rated electric wench on the front, just in case I have to go up hill.

Now we're is my stick and that horse?
Where does one find an electric wench? Is that the sort of thing they sell in those *ahem* video stores on the internet just outside lots of cities?
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:40 AM   #20
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Where does one find an electric wench? Is that the sort of thing they sell in those *ahem* video stores on the internet just outside lots of cities?
Lol, yea, spell check can't fix every thing! Yea makes the set up a hole lot different when when you think of it that way. (Pun intended)
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:10 AM   #21
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My brother asked me if I'd buy another diesel. I said, "Probably not." More expensive oil changes, fuel filter changes, fuel, etc. You have to tow a LOT to offset the additional costs - in one thread here, we estimated it at 250,000 miles before you'd break even, and I'm not sure that took into account the additional maintenance costs (mine takes 16 quarts of oil, for example). For me, it just feels like I'm dumping a bunch of money into it every few months for regular maintenance. I said to my brother that the only thing that seems to be easier is the spark plugs.

On the other hand, diesel truck pumps are quite awesome in several ways - faster fill ups and easier in/out. And the mountain of power is nice. But right now, if I had to replace our truck, I'd probably go with a gas engine. They have plenty of power to do the job without some of the headaches of a diesel.
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:57 AM   #22
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I love my Duramax, and especially like the exhaust brake. We just got back from a 3300 mile trip to the Grand Canyon and Colorado. Most of the trip, the truck stayed in 6th gear. Going down passes was a breeze with the exhaust brake.
Mileage was 15 to 17.
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:05 AM   #23
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Fuel wise IMHO, you'll get decent mileage all around and when you compare with diesel prices (.40 more a gallon) and the additive required, you'll have savings.
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Unless you come to our area where diesel is currently 38 cents per gallon (10˘/Litre) cheaper than gas.
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what rumrunner said...
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If you can afford the upfront cost differential for the diesel it is the way to go.It brings back the price differential when it comes time to sell or trade.The service costs are not as high as non owners rave about.And for towing they can not be beat.My 2 cents
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Old 07-05-2013, 05:48 AM   #26
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I also enjoy a more pleasurable driving experience with the diesel. Having towed with both, I really like driving at ~2000 RPM versus ~4000 RPM with the gas, and never holding overdrive (my truck makes max torque around 1600 RPMs). As far as this new "additive," which I am sure is Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF), or Urea, it's only a few bucks per gallon and a full tank last thousands of miles in most applications. In some places, you can now get it at the pump for more savings.
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leasing would be a n option if you didn't think you'd go over the mileage allowances
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Old 07-05-2013, 02:31 PM   #28
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Unless you come to our area where diesel is currently 38 cents per gallon (10˘/Litre) cheaper than gas.
There's no actual logic behind fuel prices though, Grant. You know that. :/
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