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03-25-2008, 01:12 PM
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New Quadrasteer Tow Vehicle
We have a new family member. Her name is Daisy, and she is an '04 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer. We found her on Ebay, and picked her up in Flint, Michigan last week and drove her home. She has a mere 24,000 miles on her.
Lucy's current TV is Olivia, an '05 GMC Yukon XL 2500 Quadrasteer. Olivia has 64,000 miles on her, and we were getting concerned that she would wear out before GM wises up and makes a more exciting and better towing Suburban. We really didn't want to do the pick-up truck thing. Olivia has towed Lucy for 30,000+ miles, and we really like her performance, especially the Quadrasteer. Daisy is now Olivia's backup TV.
Between the two girls, we figure that we are good for another 5 or 6 years of Airstream adventures.
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03-25-2008, 01:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
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What sort of mieage do they get with and without trailer?
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03-25-2008, 01:32 PM
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Olivia (the maroon Sub) has a lot of experience pulling Lucy, and get between 10 & 11 mpg when towing. She gets 13 to 14 mpg when running solo. Olivia is a 4 wheel drive.
Daisy (the silver Sub) got an amazing 16+ mpg on the 1,100 mile trip home from Michigan running at 75mph on the Interstate. We have not towed Lucy with her yet, so I don't have a towing mpg figure yet. Daisy is a 2 wheel drive which probably accounts for the better solo mpg. I'm hoping that she'll do a little better when towing.
Brian
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03-25-2008, 02:09 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
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Congratulations on the new 'burb. I discussed the pros of the Quadrasteer with you at the Can Opener and am glad you have another for the future should you ever need one.
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03-25-2008, 04:06 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
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Another Burb Lover!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
We have a new family member. Her name is Daisy, and she is an '04 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer. We found her on Ebay, and picked her up in Flint, Michigan last week and drove her home. She has a mere 24,000 miles on her.
Lucy's current TV is Olivia, an '05 GMC Yukon XL 2500 Quadrasteer. Olivia has 64,000 miles on her, and we were getting concerned that she would wear out before GM wises up and makes a more exciting and better towing Suburban. We really didn't want to do the pick-up truck thing. Olivia has towed Lucy for 30,000+ miles, and we really like her performance, especially the Quadrasteer. Daisy is now Olivia's backup TV.
Between the two girls, we figure that we are good for another 5 or 6 years of Airstream adventures.
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How neat..we found our 06 on e-bay also. It didn't sell so we contacted
the seller, made an offer, he accepted, went down South two weekends
ago to pick up the "Frantic Banana II". 06 2500 8.1,15k,couldn't believe we
got 15.2mpg at 60mph with that big Dude. Don't know about our old name
though, was okay with the green 95 Burb, but the co-pilot says it just don't
fit a white truck. Can't wait for Spring!!!
Anybody wanna buy a 95 3/4 454
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03-25-2008, 04:37 PM
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Nice looking 8.1 white Burb. She'll do a fine job of guiding the Airstream. I also like your '95. We had a '96, an '01, and now have the '04 and '05.
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03-25-2008, 08:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
Olivia (the maroon Sub) has a lot of experience pulling Lucy, and get between 10 & 11 mpg when towing. She gets 13 to 14 mpg when running solo. Olivia is a 4 wheel drive.
Daisy (the silver Sub) got an amazing 16+ mpg on the 1,100 mile trip home from Michigan running at 75mph on the Interstate. We have not towed Lucy with her yet, so I don't have a towing mpg figure yet. Daisy is a 2 wheel drive which probably accounts for the better solo mpg. I'm hoping that she'll do a little better when towing.
Brian
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Thanks! I'm looking forward to hear how Daisy fares while towing Lucy.
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03-25-2008, 09:01 PM
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suburbans ahoy!
No better TV ! I have had 5 -72,73,81,85 and the best truck I have ever owned 01
SUPERB I love this truck so much I already purchased the 5.3 crate motor. I don't need it yet. still runs strong. Buck 80
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03-25-2008, 10:00 PM
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We also had a beloved '01; her name was Petunia. She was Victory Red 2500 LT with a 6.0 gas. We sold her at 145,000 miles when we got Olivia.
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03-26-2008, 05:40 AM
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Nice score...I have to agree, Burbs are probably the perfect all-around vehicle. And you got a BB quadsteer-wow! We loved our 2 Burbs.
Surprised they had a 2wd up North?
Best of luck with the new TV,
Bill
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03-26-2008, 07:52 AM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
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I, too, was surprised that it was 2X in Michigan.
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03-26-2008, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillTex
Nice score...I have to agree, Burbs are probably the perfect all-around vehicle. And you got a BB quadsteer-wow! We loved our 2 Burbs.
Surprised they had a 2wd up North?
Best of luck with the new TV,
Bill
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A Chevrolet dealer in Flint, Michigan had taken Daisy in on a trade, held her on the lot for 40 days and then put her on Ebay. The salesman told me that 2wd Subs don't sell well in Michigan in the wintertime. The Ebay listing was about to expire with no bids when I saw it. The opening bid was $23,500. This was a fair price for a low mileage '04 2500 Sub. I let the listing expire, called the dealer and made a low ball offer of $20,600, figuring that they would come back with $23,000 or there abouts, which I would have taken. To my most pleasant suprise, they accepted the $20,600. I immediately gave them a $2,000 deposit on my Visa, and made arrangement to fly to Flint and rescue Daisy from the frozen north. Had it not been February in Michigan, I probably wouldn't have gotten Daisy.
I probably wouldn't have gotten her either if the dealer hadn't made a simple error when listing Daisy on Ebay. The Ebay listing had Quadra Steer as two words instead of the proper Quadrasteer. This meant that the listing didn't come up in the Quadrasteer section. I found Daisy's listing while going through the Sub 2500 listings. I know from experience that Quadrasteer Subs don't last long on Ebay. I had missed on in Texas a week earlier when someone "bought it now" while I was make a bid.
The stars just lined up right, and Daisy and I were meant to be. If she hadn't been a 2wd, and they hadn't mispelled Quadrasteer, Daisy would belong to another.
Brian
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03-26-2008, 09:01 AM
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INSANITY CENTRAL
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Sweet Deal- Something new to pull to Maine? you still going? I'm looking forward to another great photo trip as your last years trip out west!
I went for a ride with a friend that has that quadrasteer-WOW truly amazing, wish I had it on my 93 Burb!
Enjoy your camping!
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03-26-2008, 12:03 PM
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Yes Tim, we're still going to Maine. We're planning on leaving the last week of April and returning home the first week of June. We're planning on spending most of the time in the Maine back country around Moosehead Lake and up into Baxter State Park and beyond. We hope to do a lot of kayaking, and see a whole bunch of mooses on the remote lakes. I do plan to chronicle this adventure with daily posts and lots of pictures. I posted so many pictures last year that I was afraid that the Moderators were going to revoke photo privileges. Since I slipped through the net, I'll do it again.
Then in September, we're headed back to the Big Horn National Forest in Wyoming, and look for some of our moose friends from last year. Then it's down to the 4CU Balloon Fiesta Rally in October.
Brian
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05-30-2008, 10:11 PM
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High mileage Yukon
I bought a 2004 Yukon XL 2500 6.0 with quadrasteer in March for right around $13k - fully loaded! Only catch is the mileage - 134k miles when I bought it. Most people I talked to had experience with Suburbans giving well over 200k miles before giving up the ghost. I've put about 2k miles on it since then and have been super impressed. I figure even if I have to plunk down $5k in a new motor, I'll still be ahead. Everything looks, smells, and feels brand new.
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05-30-2008, 10:25 PM
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Is your Quadrasteer a 2wd or 4x4? I'm curious about your average mph on your high mileage Quadrasteer. I'm guessing that it's a fairly high unmber which is a good thing.
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05-30-2008, 10:30 PM
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I'm not sure I trust the avg. MPH on the computer; I know I reset it so who knows how often it was reset before? Using the hour meter and the odo, I get about 35mph avg. I think the hour meter had something like 3,900 hours when I bought it: 134k miles / 3,900 hours = ~35mph...
Also, it's a 4x4 with a 4:10 drivetrain. I get about 10mpg driving normally, only ~11mpg if I baby it. I looked at replacing the ring gears with something geared a little lower - local 4x4 shop wanted $1,500 to do it. I can buy 10 tanks of gas for that! Not sure if its worth the loss of towing capacity.
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05-30-2008, 10:52 PM
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I don't believe that the engine hours meter can be reset. If you have come up with a 35 mph average, that's really good, indicating that it has mostly road miles.
The 4.10 rear end is a good thing for towing. I would leave it alone. Both of mine have 3.73's
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05-31-2008, 07:12 AM
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One interesting thing I noticed: it seems as if it was set up to be towed behind something. (The PO must have been wealthy; imagine towing a full sized 4x4 Yukon XL behind something!) There are mounting brackets on the front frame and an electrical connection on the front bumper.
Do you know if miles accumulate while being towed?
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05-31-2008, 08:03 AM
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Suburbans are just all around great TVs for more applications (not all).
I bought an '04 LT 2500 w/6.0L (passed on an identical one with the 8.1L still don't know if that was a mistake or not).
Love this truck. It's solid and is a real workhorse. The 6.0L is an exceptional engine. I would strongly suggest to anyone, even those that don't have Suburbans, to make sure you change the driveline fluids, particularly if you think they had not been changed. As the vehicles break in, some degree of metal wears and those particles get suspended in the fluids and captured on the magnets. I put in Amsoil across the driveline. Also, not sure what filter goes with the 8.1L, but GM did make a UPF-44 that has far better filtering than the standard PF-44 that mine came with. After the first 2000 miles of breaking in with conventional oil, I changed the oil to syn and installed the UPF-44 filters.
On the part of getting 200k, if I got that high, and the body and frame were still in great shape, I would then consider the Duramax/Allison combo that is done by a few shops around the country.
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