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Old 06-29-2007, 02:22 PM   #15
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Going on 4 years (and a lot of towing) with the stock Silverado hitch receiver and no problems. That is with both Reese and Hensley hitches. I think that was fixed years ago but I do eye ball it frequently. I also do all the Allison scheduled maintenance (filters and fluid changes).
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:20 PM   #16
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:44 PM   #17
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Still waiting

Did I hear a rumbling about GM putting the Izusu-Allison package in Burbs? Anyone heard this? Or some other kerosene burner?
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It has been announced that in 2009 or 2010 GM will start putting diesels in SUVs. I don't know about the transmissions.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:07 AM   #19
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Hi, Wow. That was a lot of reading just to find out what happens when you add tongue weight to these new trucks. As for the GM trailer hitch receiver, A friend and co-worker replaced his factory receiver [on his 2006 Suburban] when we noticed both the 2" square hole and the 5/8" locking pin holes were hogged out. [Soft metal?] We compaired the pin hole and the 2" receiver hole with new Fords on the lot at the Ford dealer we both work at; And my 2000 Navigator is just as tight as brand new Fords and his Suburban was all beat up looking. The pin hole was oblong and flared. The 2" receiver hole was like stretched about 1/8" on all four sides. New after market receiver was ordered and installed before his next trip towing.
As for seeing Allisons in Fords or Dodges, don't hold your breath; For some time Ford owned Cummins and roomers were that Ford was going to put Cummins in their pick-ups. At that time Chrysler had a ten year contract with Cummins. Ford later sold Cummins.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:48 PM   #20
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Unless GM rectifies the problem with a frame crossmember, you won't see the current Allison we know today behind the diesel in the Burb.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:35 PM   #21
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Michelle, I researched and could not find any affiliation between the publisher and any Mfr...in who's favor would they be biased?

Can you let the rest of us in on it?

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Old 08-06-2007, 02:56 PM   #22
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Final results are in!

Enjoy:

PickupTruck.Com - Part 1: 2007 PickupTruck.com Heavy Duty Shootout

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Old 08-07-2007, 12:10 AM   #23
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I really enjoyed this Bill. A lot of reading but all interesting. Thanks for sharing. I have a couple of friends and my brother all looking for new trucks so I fired this over to them for a read. Every one of them has a preconceived bias toward a manufacturer and I'm sure they will still go with what their instincts tell them, but this gives them some ammo when dealing with the sales guys and their trumped up sales egos, to drive a better deal perhaps.

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Old 08-07-2007, 07:06 AM   #24
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I really enjoyed this Bill. A lot of reading but all interesting. Thanks for sharing. I have a couple of friends and my brother all looking for new trucks so I fired this over to them for a read. Every one of them has a preconceived bias toward a manufacturer and I'm sure they will still go with what their instincts tell them, but this gives them some ammo when dealing with the sales guys and their trumped up sales egos, to drive a better deal perhaps.

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Hi Barry, It was a well executed comparison test.

You can't go wrong with any of these HD trucks from the big three, I think the article reflects that. They are certainly up to pulling any AS safely and comfortably!

Yes we all have our allegiances! Nothing but GM in my driveway...

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Pretty interesting test. Too bad they didn't do the Eisenhower Tunnel climb, head to head.Start em all in Frisco and see who makes it to the bore first. I'm thinkin the Jimmy with a gear vendors would be sweet indeed.
All of them will do the job I guess.
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My $.02
They guys who deliver trailers probably are the definitive source for the "best HD truck." 200k-300k miles a year pulling in all weather and terrain.

Next time you're driving somewhere, keep count of those commercial magnetic signs and add up what you see.

My feeling is that for an airstream, any diesel is a sop to our human need to have a shinier toy than the next guy. If I'm going to pull 3-6k a year, fuel economy is a non-starter, speed up a pass is just bragging rights.

If I'm doing it and have to at least break even, fuel economy and durability become really important, but speed up a pass... still just bragging rights.

Bear in mind that all 3 of these engines are in the 300hp/600 lb-ft range.
This is a lot more than enough for a towable RV.
From Kenworth's site, the class 6 K260:
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26,000-lb. GVWR Kenworth K260 will initially be launched with a PACCAR 5.9-liter engine rated at 220 hp with maximum torque of 600 lb-ft.


I have a family but not a CDL, and find more happiness at 60mph than at 70. I also find a couple MPG, which equates to days on the road, if not miles, if that makes any sense.

Oh well, carry on, it's a fun thread to read :-)
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My feeling is that for an airstream, any diesel is a sop to our human need to have a shinier toy than the next guy. If I'm going to pull 3-6k a year, fuel economy is a non-starter, speed up a pass is just bragging rights.

If I'm doing it and have to at least break even, fuel economy and durability become really important, but speed up a pass... still just bragging rights.

Oh well, carry on, it's a fun thread to read :-)
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ummm...it's a "performance comparison".

Is a diesel really shinier?
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ummm...it's a "performance comparison".

Is a diesel really shinier?
Now that depends. If it's my gas engine compared to my mister-clean-wax-polish-buff-brother then I'd have to say his diesel is far shinier.

He's one of those people who always has a rag in his back pocket to wipe away anything that happens to end up on his truck that shouldn't be there. Every day on a trip after they park he tackles the clean the truck, clean the trailer thing while his wife does the same inside the truck and the trailer.

I drive them crazy. I pull in, set up, sit down, relax, and watch them go at it providing coaching as necessary. When he's done I borrow his window cleaner to do my windshield and then hand him back his much dirtier material.

I made sure I sent the comparison to him. He found a lot of validation in there for his purchase of his diesel so that was good.

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