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01-08-2018, 09:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
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New diesel F150
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/01/08/ford-f-150-diesel-will-be-most-fuel-efficient-full-size-pickup.amp.html#ampshare=http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2018/01/08/ford-f-150-diesel-will-be-most-fuel-efficient-full-size-pickup.html
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01-08-2018, 09:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
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NOW we're talking, especially if they can hit that 30+mpg claim.
What I'd really love to see, though, is a diesel electric hybrid.
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01-08-2018, 10:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,310
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Looks like it's going to be a nicely packaged vehicle and a great travel trailer tow vehicle.
One thing I don't like is the Stop/start feature - the bearings in the hot turbo won't like this after a while. Turbo's like to be cooled down a bit before shutting off.
The engine cover looks interesting - it even has a cup holder for your drink when your working on it
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1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
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01-08-2018, 11:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,655
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crispyboy
Looks like it's going to be a nicely packaged vehicle and a great travel trailer tow vehicle.
One thing I don't like is the Stop/start feature - the bearings in the hot turbo won't like this after a while. Turbo's like to be cooled down a bit before shutting off.
The engine cover looks interesting - it even has a cup holder for your drink when your working on it
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Well, if they are smart, there will be an electric coolant pump which will keep the turbo cool during stops.
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01-08-2018, 06:33 PM
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,654
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Wow! 30 MPG in a full size truck.
Sounds like a very interesting choice in the ongoing truck wars. One thing that hurts the RAM 1500 Ecodiesel is the low payload. Ford's decision to go to the aluminum body may payoff in the diesel battle as well.
I'll have to keep an eye on this truck. Any word on when it will be released?
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01-08-2018, 06:34 PM
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Lost in America
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,151
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Exhaust brake?
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01-08-2018, 06:43 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Byron Center
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2017
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It will be interesting to see what happens with the payload capacity on the F-150. Diesels are already heavier, and may limit the payload even more than it already is, especially on well-optioned F-150 Platinum 4x4's.
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01-08-2018, 07:32 PM
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojo
Exhaust brake?
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According to this article ( http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/...el-first-look/) it appears as though it will not have an exhaust brake available.
This article also provides a few more technical aspects.
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01-08-2018, 07:44 PM
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YippieKiYa
It will be interesting to see what happens with the payload capacity on the F-150. Diesels are already heavier, and may limit the payload even more than it already is, especially on well-optioned F-150 Platinum 4x4's.
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According to another article in Car & Driver here is some information on the weight: "Although official numbers haven’t been released, Ford said the turbo-diesel 3.0-liter weighs approximately 620 pounds, which is about 150 pounds heavier than the aluminum-block, twin-turbo 3.5-liter EcoBoost."
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01-09-2018, 05:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YippieKiYa
It will be interesting to see what happens with the payload capacity on the F-150. Diesels are already heavier, and may limit the payload even more than it already is, especially on well-optioned F-150 Platinum 4x4's.
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Yes, be prepared to be disappointed with payload. The F150 is already payload challenged for those of us with heavy trailers and who pack the kitchen sink in the bed!
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01-09-2018, 09:42 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Des Peres
, Missouri
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 266
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I'm sure this truck will be next on the EPA target list
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01-09-2018, 10:40 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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I like seeing this new Ford Diesel hitting the market. This will force GM to do likewise. I would love to see a new Diesel Suburban.
I don't think that leaving off an exhaust brake is a good idea. This is one of the major advantages of having a Diesel tow vehicle.
Brian
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01-09-2018, 12:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moosetags
I like seeing this new Ford Diesel hitting the market. This will force GM to do likewise. I would love to see a new Diesel Suburban.
I don't think that leaving off an exhaust brake is a good idea. This is one of the major advantages of having a Diesel tow vehicle.
Brian
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Not sure how much "engine braking" a small engine can develop.
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01-09-2018, 12:47 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Francisco
, Indiana
Join Date: Aug 2005
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After the Ford 6.0 and 6.4 fiasco's there is no way I would buy a Ford diesel.
Hickory
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01-09-2018, 01:12 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hickory
After the Ford 6.0 and 6.4 fiasco's there is no way I would buy a Ford diesel.
Hickory
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A little different situation, as the 3.0 is a Ford engine, like the 6.7, and not an International.
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01-09-2018, 01:15 PM
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Rivet Master
South East
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crispyboy
Looks like it's going to be a nicely packaged vehicle and a great travel trailer tow vehicle.
One thing I don't like is the Stop/start feature - the bearings in the hot turbo won't like this after a while. Turbo's like to be cooled down a bit before shutting off.
The engine cover looks interesting - it even has a cup holder for your drink when your working on it
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The auto start-stop does not occur at every stop. The computer monitors a number of items on the truck. I've noted several times on my gas 150 where I thought the engine would shut down but didn't. It would be in Ford's best interest to keep track of turbo use and not shut down the engine if the turbo's are hot.
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2017 29' SOB, 2022 Platinum F-150 SCrew, ProPride
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01-09-2018, 02:41 PM
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New Member
2014 28' Flying Cloud
Ft Knox
, Kentucky
Join Date: Oct 2017
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payload
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01-09-2018, 03:37 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SailorSam205
The auto start-stop does not occur at every stop. The computer monitors a number of items on the truck. I've noted several times on my gas 150 where I thought the engine would shut down but didn't. It would be in Ford's best interest to keep track of turbo use and not shut down the engine if the turbo's are hot.
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Ford did note that the auto start-stop they have announced across the line is disabled when towing, and when in 4WD.
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01-09-2018, 07:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SailorSam205
The auto start-stop does not occur at every stop. The computer monitors a number of items on the truck. I've noted several times on my gas 150 where I thought the engine would shut down but didn't. It would be in Ford's best interest to keep track of turbo use and not shut down the engine if the turbo's are hot.
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Can't you shut the "feature"
Off?
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01-09-2018, 07:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Raleigh
, NC
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 170
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There is a button on the dash of my gas F150 to turn it off.
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