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Old 01-08-2018, 09:05 AM   #1
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New diesel F150

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Old 01-08-2018, 09:18 AM   #2
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NOW we're talking, especially if they can hit that 30+mpg claim.

What I'd really love to see, though, is a diesel electric hybrid.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:56 AM   #3
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Looks like it's going to be a nicely packaged vehicle and a great travel trailer tow vehicle.

One thing I don't like is the Stop/start feature - the bearings in the hot turbo won't like this after a while. Turbo's like to be cooled down a bit before shutting off.

The engine cover looks interesting - it even has a cup holder for your drink when your working on it

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Looks like it's going to be a nicely packaged vehicle and a great travel trailer tow vehicle.

One thing I don't like is the Stop/start feature - the bearings in the hot turbo won't like this after a while. Turbo's like to be cooled down a bit before shutting off.

The engine cover looks interesting - it even has a cup holder for your drink when your working on it

Well, if they are smart, there will be an electric coolant pump which will keep the turbo cool during stops.
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Wow! 30 MPG in a full size truck.

Sounds like a very interesting choice in the ongoing truck wars. One thing that hurts the RAM 1500 Ecodiesel is the low payload. Ford's decision to go to the aluminum body may payoff in the diesel battle as well.

I'll have to keep an eye on this truck. Any word on when it will be released?
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Old 01-08-2018, 06:43 PM   #7
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It will be interesting to see what happens with the payload capacity on the F-150. Diesels are already heavier, and may limit the payload even more than it already is, especially on well-optioned F-150 Platinum 4x4's.
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Old 01-08-2018, 07:32 PM   #8
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According to this article (http://www.motortrend.com/cars/ford/...el-first-look/) it appears as though it will not have an exhaust brake available.

This article also provides a few more technical aspects.
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It will be interesting to see what happens with the payload capacity on the F-150. Diesels are already heavier, and may limit the payload even more than it already is, especially on well-optioned F-150 Platinum 4x4's.
According to another article in Car & Driver here is some information on the weight: "Although official numbers haven’t been released, Ford said the turbo-diesel 3.0-liter weighs approximately 620 pounds, which is about 150 pounds heavier than the aluminum-block, twin-turbo 3.5-liter EcoBoost."
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It will be interesting to see what happens with the payload capacity on the F-150. Diesels are already heavier, and may limit the payload even more than it already is, especially on well-optioned F-150 Platinum 4x4's.
Yes, be prepared to be disappointed with payload. The F150 is already payload challenged for those of us with heavy trailers and who pack the kitchen sink in the bed!
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I'm sure this truck will be next on the EPA target list
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I like seeing this new Ford Diesel hitting the market. This will force GM to do likewise. I would love to see a new Diesel Suburban.

I don't think that leaving off an exhaust brake is a good idea. This is one of the major advantages of having a Diesel tow vehicle.

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Old 01-09-2018, 12:26 PM   #13
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I like seeing this new Ford Diesel hitting the market. This will force GM to do likewise. I would love to see a new Diesel Suburban.

I don't think that leaving off an exhaust brake is a good idea. This is one of the major advantages of having a Diesel tow vehicle.

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Not sure how much "engine braking" a small engine can develop.
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After the Ford 6.0 and 6.4 fiasco's there is no way I would buy a Ford diesel.
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After the Ford 6.0 and 6.4 fiasco's there is no way I would buy a Ford diesel.
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A little different situation, as the 3.0 is a Ford engine, like the 6.7, and not an International.
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Looks like it's going to be a nicely packaged vehicle and a great travel trailer tow vehicle.

One thing I don't like is the Stop/start feature - the bearings in the hot turbo won't like this after a while. Turbo's like to be cooled down a bit before shutting off.

The engine cover looks interesting - it even has a cup holder for your drink when your working on it

The auto start-stop does not occur at every stop. The computer monitors a number of items on the truck. I've noted several times on my gas 150 where I thought the engine would shut down but didn't. It would be in Ford's best interest to keep track of turbo use and not shut down the engine if the turbo's are hot.
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The auto start-stop does not occur at every stop. The computer monitors a number of items on the truck. I've noted several times on my gas 150 where I thought the engine would shut down but didn't. It would be in Ford's best interest to keep track of turbo use and not shut down the engine if the turbo's are hot.
Ford did note that the auto start-stop they have announced across the line is disabled when towing, and when in 4WD.
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The auto start-stop does not occur at every stop. The computer monitors a number of items on the truck. I've noted several times on my gas 150 where I thought the engine would shut down but didn't. It would be in Ford's best interest to keep track of turbo use and not shut down the engine if the turbo's are hot.
Can't you shut the "feature"
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There is a button on the dash of my gas F150 to turn it off.
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