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01-10-2018, 10:35 AM
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2020 Globetrotter 25 FBT
2020 25' Globetrotter
Wildwood
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,588
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30 mpg sounds good to me. So does that payload. Wonder what the sticker will be for a 6.5' bed, max payload, trailer tow, crew cab, lariat?
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2020 25GT FBT
2012 Toyota Tundra Dbl Cab, 5.7 4x4
Previous AS trailers: (04) 19’ Bambi, and (11) FC 23FB
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01-10-2018, 10:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' International
Southeastern MI
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 2,344
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GettinAway
30 mpg sounds good to me. So does that payload. Wonder what the sticker will be for a 6.5' bed, max payload, trailer tow, crew cab, lariat?
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I heard $4k more for the engine
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01-10-2018, 10:48 AM
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Rivet Master
South East
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcl
Ford did note that the auto start-stop they have announced across the line is disabled when towing, and when in 4WD.
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Thanks for noting that. I just checked my owners manual. There's a whole list of reasons why the feature would be inactive.
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Al
2017 29' SOB, 2022 Platinum F-150 SCrew, ProPride
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01-18-2018, 05:59 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 334
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It's eerie how closely the hp and torque stats of that little 3.0 diesel in the F150 match my old '96 F250 and its big-block 7.3 liter engine. In fact, the hp and torque is a bit better than my old-school International that displaces 2.4 times more combustion-chamber space.
Even the payload is about the same, ~2000 pounds, although the F150 is a lot lighter overall.
But it's got me on fuel mileage: I can get 21 mpg at 70 mph unladen, but the new one seems to get closer to 30.
Good stuff!
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01-18-2018, 06:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 16' Sport
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 32
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Just got a quote on it from Canadian Dealer. $5600 is the upgrade here.
I could put the order in, but wont be ready until Q2 they believe.
Been looking at the F150...and this appeals to me.
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01-19-2018, 01:03 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcl
A little different situation, as the 3.0 is a Ford engine, like the 6.7, and not an International.
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Ford 3Lv6 turbo built in England, Chrysler3L v6 turbo Italian and GM 3L inline 6 turbo built in USA.
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01-19-2018, 01:47 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,578
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gandttimes
Ford 3Lv6 turbo built in England, Chrysler3L v6 turbo Italian and GM 3L inline 6 turbo built in USA.
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I was pointing out whose engine it was, not where it was assembled. How about where it was designed? The new GM diesel came from Turin, Italy. Does that matter?
There is already a 2.8 litre GM diesel. It is built in Thailand.
There used to be a 2.9 GM diesel, when they owned VM Motori. They sold their share. That engine became the 3.0 diesel engine that FCA now uses.
Do you distinguish between GM 5.3 engines built in the US and those built in Canada?
If one buys a RAM from FCA, is it American, Mexican, or Italian?
Personally, I can’t see any of it mattering.
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01-20-2018, 12:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' FB International
2007 20' Safari SE
2005 19' Safari
Qualicum Beach
, British Columbia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,096
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcl
I was pointing out whose engine it was, not where it was assembled. How about where it was designed? The new GM diesel came from Turin, Italy. Does that matter?
There is already a 2.8 litre GM diesel. It is built in Thailand.
There used to be a 2.9 GM diesel, when they owned VM Motori. They sold their share. That engine became the 3.0 diesel engine that FCA now uses.
Do you distinguish between GM 5.3 engines built in the US and those built in Canada?
If one buys a RAM from FCA, is it American, Mexican, or Italian?
Personally, I can’t see any of it mattering.
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And I was just noting how global the industry is. Chill out.
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01-20-2018, 12:37 AM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 4,578
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OK, I get it. Did you perhaps interpret my labelling of the engine as an International product to mean global, as opposed to being a product of International Harvester/Navistar International?
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