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Old 09-02-2013, 05:03 PM   #1
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Hi everybody!

After many visit to dealerships and a visit at the Airstream factory, my wife and I will finally order a 2014 19' flying cloud. This is the length and floorplan that we think suits our lifestyle the best.

Now we need to get a tow vehicle. After reading many posts here, it seems that the payload is the limiting factor more than the towing capacity.

A usual camping trip will include my wife and I, our mountain bikes and bike gears, clothes and food. The bikes need to be in the TV when driving since I don't like when it rains on them.

I have narrowed down the list to 3 TV:
- porsche cayenne : 1700 lbs payload
- F150 crew cab, 6' bed with bed cap (200 lbs) : max 1500 lbs payload after bed cap is installed
- F250 crew cab, 6.75' bed with bed cap (200 lbs) : payload is not an issue

The total approximate "payload", including the airstream's hitch weight is 1300lbs, including camping stuff, so any of the 3 vehicle should do. The thing is that we might bring friends along on some occasion, which would increase the total weight by at least 300lbs, now being over the F150 max payload capacity and near the Cayenne's max.

We live in the Midwest right now but are from the mountains of the East and we might move to the West in a 1-3 years span.

As anyone ever pulled with a Cayenne and what are your toughts about being near the max payload capacity?

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Old 09-02-2013, 05:07 PM   #2
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Of those choices I might go with the Cayenne.

I wonder if a Cayenne would tow a 30'.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:13 PM   #3
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Martin, if you're referring to the F150 EcoBoost, that would be my choice of the three. I am thinking of replacing/augmenting my F250/7.3L with either the F150, or a Chevy 1500. The only reason is I would like a softer ride, and better braking from the transmission.

The F250 is wonderful, and I am going to keep it, but the newer trucks have a lot of nice features that might make towing a little easier on me.
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We are towing our 23' with a mid size sedan and have not exceeded the payload of the car with the two of us in the car. What are you going to be loading to get the weight so high?
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:57 PM   #5
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I think you might have got the hitch weight wrong - my 34' has a hitch weight of just 625lbs? How heavy are your bikes?

If you want to transport bike gear, especially after a muddy run, then the Porsche might not be the best option and a truck might just serve you better.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:00 PM   #6
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We are towing our 23' with a mid size sedan and have not exceeded the payload of the car with the two of us in the car. What are you going to be loading to get the weight so high?
Hi Road Ruler,

- Wife and I : 300lbs
- bikes and gears : 100lbs
- hitch + sway bar + W/D bars : 150lbs
- A/S tongue weight : 600lbs
- camping stuff + tools : 150 lbs
total : 1300 lbs

For a F150, I would add 200lbs to the total, which is the weight of a Leer bed cap.
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:35 PM   #7
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I think you might have got the hitch weight wrong - my 34' has a hitch weight of just 625lbs? How heavy are your bikes?

If you want to transport bike gear, especially after a muddy run, then the Porsche might not be the best option and a truck might just serve you better.

Hi Andreasduess,

the hitch weight of the 19FC is 550lbs according to litterature. I rounded it up to 600lbs.

Bikes and gears are 100 lbs.
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Camping stuff and tools can be carried in the trailer, not the vehicle, if you're concerned about weight. Helps a little.

You're right, I am amazed how heavy that little trailer is on the hitch. Also, don't forget that weight distribution shifts some of the weight back to the trailer axle.
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I tow our 2012 FC 19 with a 2012 silverado 1500 CC it's a great combination
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Old 09-02-2013, 10:33 PM   #10
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Any no-frills 1/2 ton truck with tow package will do nicely and is a great value as well as easy to maintain. But you must have a good weight distribution hitch fully capable of distributing weight among both truck axles, and the trailer axles. Note that part of the payload is distributed to trailer axles.

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Old 09-03-2013, 05:50 AM   #11
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Thanks for the comments everyone.
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Hi Road Ruler,

- Wife and I : 300lbs
- bikes and gears : 100lbs
- hitch + sway bar + W/D bars : 150lbs
- A/S tongue weight : 600lbs
- camping stuff + tools : 150 lbs
total : 1300 lbs
Thnxs for the list Martin.

We have the same numbers but here is what we do.

Bikes and camping stuff go in the trailer. The trailer also takes some of the weight from the car when the WDH is used.

By doing it this way we have added roughly 900lbs (total payload) to the car over it's dry weight.
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Good advice Road Ruler, I'll keep that in mind!
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Anything but a truck would be foolish IMO.
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