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Old 02-05-2015, 07:17 AM   #57
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Here are the specs for your truck:
6.2.-liter V8
385 horsepower @ 5,500 rpm
405 lb-ft of torque @ 4,500 rpm
EPA city/highway fuel economy: N/A

The F350 Diesel has:

6.7-liter turbocharged diesel V8
440 horsepower @ 2,800 rpm
860 lb-ft of torque @ 1,600 rpm
EPA city/highway fuel economy: N/A

The thing I like about our Diesel is the torque, pulls the 30' off a light or stoplight or up a mountain at about 2,000RPMs or less. Thing I don't like - Fuel Cost and maintenance costs. Thought long, very long and hard about a gasser. Now I hear Ford is going to do away with the 6.2 Gas and come out with a Gas EcoBoost for the Super Duty. Could be interesting. Torque close to a Diesel, expenses of Gas.

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Old 02-05-2015, 08:14 AM   #58
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To the cost of Diesel:

Owned 2012 6.7 F250 Diesel now Own 2015 6.7 F350 Diesel:

MPG - computer and manual calculations
14.7 Around hilly and city driving - Pittsburgh, PA
13.7 Towing 30' AS Loaded with stuff, empty holding tanks at 65MPH
21.3 NOT towing highway at 70MPH.

Oil changes $89.00
Oil Filter - $11.45
Fuel Filters - $46.50

All done by Ford dealer at every 7,500 miles except when towing then at 5,000 miles

Like someone said do I need a diesel, no, do I want one, yes. At today's fuel costs the diesel is pretty much a push compared to gas with the extra miles per gallon, additional is DEF, which is minimal and slight increase in filter costs. Well worth it for extra power, extra torque and extra stopping power. The 2015 6.7 is much improved even over the 2012.

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Old 02-05-2015, 08:25 AM   #59
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:07 AM   #60
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Good times for all no matter if you drive a gas or oil burner. Too bad they don't make a 6.2l EcoBoost with the twin turbos. I would trade for that. But only if you would be able to work on the engine with out removing the cab like on the PS 6.7. And no I don't own a diesel, just been driving em for the last two and a half decades when they weren't in the shop. Company has been eating all the repairs and maintenance outside of the warranty, except for fuel contamination damages which is a whole other issue. (Bio-Diesel)That's why I own a gasser. It's enough power for me and easy on the wallet. I'm out.


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Old 02-05-2015, 09:11 AM   #61
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I checked out a couple of youTube videos one showing an oil change on a 6.7L. 13 quarts of oil but the procedure was the same as a gas engine. Uses a spin on oil filter too.

The other video was changing the two fuel filters. One is underneath the frame which requires disconnecting the water sensor, draining the fuel from the petcock, removing the housing and replacing the filter then reversing the procedure. This is the filter you drain any water collected in the fuel. The 2nd filter is a disposable cartridge and the fuel lines clip on the input/output lines.

Didn't look too bad of a DIY project. Resetting of the oil change interval was easy in the menu system.

The guy doing the fuel filter change was in Canada and mentioned his fuel was gelling and was thinking of finding a different fuel source. Is this a common issue with diesel fuel in the cold? It was 11F last night. Does diesel gel when it gets this cold or is it a result of water in the fuel?

Is synthetic oil used in diesels or too costly for most?

I've found several 2015 F250 6.7 XLTs that are being offered for around $45k to $47K. Granted they don't have leather and Ford Touch with Navigation, it appears you can't get that with XLT trim but we prefer cloth and the XLT can be ordered with a center console which we prefer vs the fold down seat/console. Navigation can be accomplished with a Garmin or iPad. The gas version XLT is about $7k less similarly equipped.

With so much power on the diesel would the 3.31 rear axle be a good choice to pull a 25fb, 7000 to 8000lbs? This should offer the best of both worlds for tow and non tow mileage?

From what I've read to get the best towing performance from the 3.5L Ecoboost you are advised to use premium fuel which brings the price difference between diesel and gas closer. In my area currently the price of premium and diesel is very close within 10 cents of each other.

I've priced out a 2015 XLT F150 CrewCab 4x4 with HD Payload and XLT and the prices seem close to the XLT F250 diesel I've mentioned. My understanding when towing with the 3.5L EB your mileage is similar to non boosted V8 6.2L towing Airstreams.

We are thinking of extended travels out west in a few years and will want to carry more items so I'm contemplating replacing my Tundra while I'm still working. I know when I retire and the paychecks stop coming in I'll be less likely or motivated to change my tow vehicle.

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Old 02-05-2015, 09:17 AM   #62
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Drathaar:

Here are the specs for your truck:
6.2.-liter V8
385 horsepower @ 5,500 rpm
405 lb-ft of torque @ 4,500 rpm
EPA city/highway fuel economy: N/A

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Hi Bud,

Either I have a typo in my last comment, or you have mistaken me for another member. I have a 2014 F350 diesel, and a 2000 F250 diesel.

I believe the HP and torque for my 2014 is a tiny bit less than your 2015 F350. Like you, I love that torque!

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Old 02-05-2015, 10:18 AM   #63
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Kelvin, As to your cold weather questions on diesels we have found that in areas where the winters get cold they sell a winter blend fuel that gels at lower temps. Several years ago when fuel costs were very high, fuel sales were down so low here in Fairbanks that the stations still had summer grade fuel in the fall when temps dropped to below 0. Truck's stranded all over with gelled fuel. Since then I always add Diesel Clean anti gell starting in the fall. No trouble since, drove the truck earlier this week at -28. As to syn oils I use Valvoline Blue Syn as Dodge/Cummins specifically call for Synthetic oil at low temps. Would have to check the book to see exact temp. Of course we ordered truck with block heater but that is std up here for all vehicles.
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Old 02-17-2015, 02:49 PM   #64
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The other misconception floating around is that spark plugs on gas engines will last 100,000 miles. Don't believe it. You should change plugs every 50,000 miles. The gap in the new plugs is huge and as they wear, the gap gets larger and larger. I changed mine the first time at 90,ooo miles and it's a wonder those plugs didn't put a hole in the top of my piston, the gap was so large. Ford mechanics that I talk to all recommend plug changes at 50,000 mile intervals.
I understand that the center electrode wears as the spark plug ages ...increasing the gap ... but are you trying to tell us that the ground electrode moves towards the piston as the electrode gap increases ??? Why are you wondering about the plugs putting a hole in the top of the piston? Melting ?

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This is our first diesel... and, it is awesome...
We felt the same "awesomeness" with our first diesel; it made the traveling so much more effortless ... it could have just been the newer technology - who knows...maybe we would have felt the same about a new gasser. But we still like even our new diesel. YMMV Enjoy!
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Diesel not for me

Unless you are going to be pulling 25k to 30k miles a year, go gas. The maintenance on a diesel is just crazy. The only $50,000 truck that has ever left me stranded was a diesel. The $8000 difference plus the difference in the price of the fuel, you can go a long way even thought the gas only get 10 mpg.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:54 AM   #66
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Oh, something else I like to do when I buy trucks. I get the least equipped. The dealer pricing on aftermarket leather is around $700 to $1000. They'll tell you $1,500, but the sales guy is just trying to get a cut. The leather kits are just as good if not better then factory, and it includes all the doors, etc. Not just the seats. Also, I buy all the navigation/hands free stuff after market. It's way better
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:32 PM   #67
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Beware that an F250 Lariat 6.7 diesel crew cab SWB has less the 2000lbs payload.

Go to Hanna Ford website, a Canadian dealer. The photos of their trucks show the payload stickers. There were two 2015 Lariats, the diesel had 1779lbs of payload and the gas Lariat had 2404lbs. The XLT diesel had 1929lbs payload, the XLT 6.2L gas had 2750lbs.

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Hey Kevin. Do you think that's because a diesel engine weights about a gazillion pounds?
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Well kelvin Im not sure where you got your data on the Payload for the Ford 2015 F250 diesel. I have the very truck your talking about and the number or info that came with truck is 3000 lbs. Thats also what the Ford website has listed as well.


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Well kelvin Im not sure where you got your data on the Payload for the Ford 2015 F250 diesel. I have the very truck your talking about and the number or info that came with truck is 3000 lbs. Thats also what the Ford website has listed as well.


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Hi, kelvin is talking about the yellow stickers in the door jamb; Does your yellow sticker say 3000 lbs? The book says my F-150 is supposed to be 1900 lbs, but because of options, my truck's yellow sticker says 1745 lbs payload.
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