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Old 01-30-2015, 02:59 AM   #29
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Most mechanics say never replace spark plugs until it starts to miss- then replace that single spark plug and it's coil pack-
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Spark plugs don't foul like they used to with modern computer controlled engines and clean fuels.
In the coil, distributor, and spark plug wires days, I changed the plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, and rotor every 100,000 miles. I couldn't tell it ran any better, but fuel economy increased. I have driven several vehicles to over 200,000 miles with no I'll effects from changing plugs every 100,000 miles. We have one vehicle in the fleet that was mine first that has 525,000 miles. I have known a couple of people to go over 400,000 or over 500,000 miles. None of them changed spark plugs very often.
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Old 02-01-2015, 12:19 PM   #30
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We went from an 04 F250 5.4L to the 12 F250 6.2L. Big improvement. Love the easy maintenance on the gas engine. Has the 35 gallon tank. Plenty of power and no complaints. I tow a 25' Classic and an 8k Bobcat skidsteer with it. Been driving light duty fleet diesels for work for two decades. Fords, GM and Dodges. All of them have great torque and could pull a house when they weren't in the shop. All of them were shop queens and several had to have engine replacements. Last two were 2011 PS F450's due to broke crankshafts(faulty castings). Most problems seem to have been from the big three using the customer as a test bed for new designs. Like the 6.0 PS or the exhaust filter systems they have been experimenting with. If you need to tow over 10k then a diesel is better suited. Below 10k all the gas offerings work just fine. Gas works for me. Diesels work for others. Theirs something for everyone. If buying used past the factory warranty on a diesel then pay the extra bucks for an extended warranty on the drive train. It will pay for itself.


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Old 02-01-2015, 03:15 PM   #31
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I decide to look at a 2015 F250 XLTS 4x4 CC 6.5' bed today while the dealer was closed. Compared to the diesel models next to it this gas version seem to be several inches higher. There were several more inches of ground clearance at the hitch receiver and between the tires and fender than on the diesels and they both had the same 18" tires. I know the diesel engine is is a few hundred pounds heavier than the gas engine but is the suspension lower than the gas versions?

This 2015 gas F250 had the snow plow package. Would that account for the extra height. I thought the would just order this package to get the 200 amp alternator.

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Old 02-01-2015, 03:49 PM   #32
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Old 02-02-2015, 10:05 AM   #33
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I decide to look at a 2015 F250 XLTS 4x4 CC 6.5' bed today while the dealer was closed. Compared to the diesel models next to it this gas version seem to be several inches higher. There were several more inches of ground clearance at the hitch receiver and between the tires and fender than on the diesels and they both had the same 18" tires. I know the diesel engine is is a few hundred pounds heavier than the gas engine but is the suspension lower than the gas versions?

This 2015 gas F250 had the snow plow package. Would that account for the extra height. I thought the would just order this package to get the 200 amp alternator.

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Old 02-02-2015, 11:40 AM   #34
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Do what you will, but towing trailers is different on an engine then just a grocery getter. I just know on my wife's 2007 Lincoln LT 5.4, I changed her plugs at 60k and some of the plugs were good and a couple were not so good. My 6.8 V-10 plugs were changed at 90k and glad I didn't wait any longer.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:42 AM   #35
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Kelvin:

It's extra confusing because I'd expect the FX4 to have more ground clearance than the regular 4x4 package.

Perhaps they have different payload packages? If you noted or photographed the VIN of each truck you can look up their window stickers... (or of course if you photographed the window sticker itself you can look at the payload package there.) The difference doesn't seem like much, but apparently the '15 F250 4x4 is available with a 9,900 lb or 10,000 lb GVWR, so there may be a ride-height difference between the 2. The spec page lists 2 heights (about 2.6" apart), for example, but doesn't say WHY.
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Old 02-02-2015, 11:54 AM   #36
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VIN for the diesel is 1FT7W2BT5FEA39162. 10000 GVWR pkg, camper pkg, FX4 pkg.

VIN for the gas is 1FT7W2B61FEC12380. 10000 GVWR pkg, snow plow pkg, 12.5k trailer hitch

All I can think of is the snow plow pkg and 12.5k trailer hitch pkg must raise the body on the gas version. This truck sits way too high and looks and probably drives top heavy.

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Snow plow package will get you the 6000 # front springs on the truck. The diesel is more than likely the 5200 # front springs. Heavier coils to carry the weight of the plow. Same Dana 60 front axle though. The door jam sticker will tell the story.


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Old 02-02-2015, 12:36 PM   #38
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I have tge snow plow package on my F-250 V-10 gas and it didn't make much difference to me until I replaced the stock bumper with a South Texas Outfitters monster bumper. To me, it's a very nice factory add-on for not much money.
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Old 02-04-2015, 09:32 AM   #39
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Three questions: What range to you experience towing with a F250 with the 6.7 diesel and 6.2L gas. Diesel only has 27 gal tank and gas has 35gal on the SWB crew cab.

How good is the navigation system on Fords. Better than a standalone Garmin, worse?

What is the main difference between a 2012 6.7L vs 2015 6.7L diesel engine?

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Old 02-04-2015, 11:34 AM   #40
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1.The 2015 6.7 diesel pulls my 28ft International and avg fuel economy is 12-13 mpg pulling.I have a F350 long wheelbase Supercrew 4x4 single rear wheelwith 8ft box and a 36 gallon tank.

2.Navigation system is a must for resale these days and it is much better than Garmin.

3.2011 was the first year of 6.7 and as with most Gen 1 vehicles or engines it had its share of problems.Transmissions,engine problems,etc
I bought a new 2012 and it had very few minor issues as there were many impovements.
I traded for a 2015 and there is a big difference between it and the 2012.Noticeable right away is how much quieter it is,both engine and cab.The power is up (not that it needed it) due to larger turbo and upgraded fuel delivery 440hp with 860ft lbs of torque.Fuel economy dropped 10% due to this increase.Navigation is much better and real time weather radar has saved me more that once from hail storms and ice when traveling.The disc brakes were made larger also as the 2012 brakes were a little anemic.
I have driven everything out there and for me there is no better tow vehicle for comfort and handling.Resale is as high as you can get if you take care of your vehicles and order the right equipment and colors as pre-owned Superduty Diesels are in demand.The high maintenance that is mentioned on this forum is baloney and is coming from people that have not owned a 6.7 Turbo diesel.Maintenance is close to the same as a F150.Def fluid usage is minimal.
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We have a 2014 F350 that is very close to what Moflash purchased. Excellent truck. 36 gallon tank. Best mileage so far (under 3,000 total miles at this point) was 18.1 mpg on an unloaded trip to the Oregon coast and back. With my 2000 F250 7.3, I was getting a little over 19 mpg unloaded, but it was a super cab, not a crew cab. As the truck gets more miles, I expect milage to increase.

If I recall correctly, we have 400 HP and 800 foot pounds of torque. That's sufficient.

Electronics and navigation is excellent. My only complaint about the electronics, and it would be for any vehicle with this level of automation, is that I tend to take my eyes off the road to tweedle with things on the screen. I haven't gotten used to the controls on the steering wheel yet. My F250 doesn't have anything like this.

One minor thing that I have noticed is that the wiper blades that came with the truck tend to pull water back onto the driver's side windshield in a heavy downpour. Ford replaced the blades, and it's much better.
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