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Old 10-24-2015, 07:30 AM   #15
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That's a misnomer. The Raptor features long travel suspension, and that is great for jeep trails. And the 2014 is rated to tow 8000lbs and the engine is the same one in the gaser F250. (Not a Ford guy)

If we're honest, trucks aren't ideal for jeep trails, you want a short wheelbase. Of course, one's definition of jeep trails can vary pretty widely. I'm not really into the "rock crawling"/bouncing off rocks and tearing **** up crowd. More into the overland long travel offroad expo type stuff. Hit up plenty of alpine and desert trails that are technical.

But that's the compromise you make if you tow. I had an expo rig for a long time (posted pictures around here somewhere), we came out here to Moab and hit the trails a lot. So part of my setup has been to balance between stable towing and an expo rig. I have a mild adjustable lift, 4.10's, 35 inch tires, onboard air. The downside is the power on hills on the highway isn't quite as good. Over the scales I'm spot on for payload. This is why I've been thinking a bit more about the Power Wagon. Just the overall weight of the thing.

Good report though.
You're right, if you've ever gotten a long wheelbase truck high sided, you'll know.
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Old 10-24-2015, 07:32 AM   #16
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yea, I've heard the extra weight if the Cummings in front isn't so good for off-road. Is that true?
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:47 AM   #17
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I've been using my '13 Power Wagon as our TV for a few years now. I wouldn't trade it for anything! But like any vehicle, after a period of time you notice things you wish the manufacturer would have done differently. My list of improvements would be small however.... #1 larger gas tank! I seriously hope the newer upgrades have a gas tank that will hold more than 27 gallons..... While towing (aprox average 9mpg) I'm looking for gas much more than I'd prefer and usually have to take the gas cans with me.
The only other thing I'd like is more payload, but honestly, isn't this true of almost EVERY factory truck?
It has performed flawlessly since new and with the Hensley it tows like a dream. In 2013 the Power Wagons came with the 5.7 gas Hemi and 5 speed tranny, I debated waiting for the upgraded model, but at $38,900 out the door new, I couldn't resist.


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Old 10-24-2015, 10:05 AM   #18
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It seems to me towing and more extreme off roading is not inclusive. One function would be compromised for the other I would think a 4x4 truck would handle most 4x4 situations except for jeep trails. Maybe the only solution is a motorhome with an extreme 4x4 vehicle in tow.

I would also not want to jeopardize the tow vehicle in extreme 4x4 conditions. It gets damaged and you are out of a tow vehicle.

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Old 10-27-2015, 01:48 AM   #19
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Well, we got back from another outing. Like the last time the truck performed flawlessly. My mileage was still at 11.5 mpg. The one thing that I am learning is that other people drive like idiots when you are towing a trailer. That just blows me away!
Anyway, two reasons why the PW does not have a cummins. First is the winch is placed where the intercooler would be. Second, it adds too much weight to the front end which is not good for a trail vehicle.
To Truxpin you got a smashing deal on your truck. I am jealous! Now my PW holds 32 gallons of gas. That is a plus, but you have more payload since your PW is lighter. Heck of a trade off.
To KJRitchie I don't intend to take this vehicle on extreme trails. It will take us to those spots away from everyone when we want to pitch a tent. With a built in winch, lockers and disconnecting sway bar it will go where most stock 4x4 trucks won't. That was part of the allure.
To Bold it sounds like you might need to regear your truck. That would be cheaper than buying a new PW. However, if that is what you are leaning towards I would suggest , IMO, getting the tradesman version. It has a higher payload and tow rating if that is what you are looking for. We did not get that version because we got a great deal on our Laramie.

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Old 10-28-2015, 08:26 AM   #20
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I don't intend to take this vehicle on extreme trails. It will take us to those spots away from everyone when we want to pitch a tent. With a built in winch, lockers and disconnecting sway bar it will go where most stock 4x4 trucks won't. That was part of the allure.
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EXACTLY! I use my winch more for getting other people out of trouble, than I do for myself. The hardest part, while out "having fun" on the trails is to keep it away from trees and other hazzards that are constantly trying to bombard the body. It's a triple duty truck (Play Toy, Tow Vehicle & Grocery Getter), so unfortunately I gotta "baby" it a bit

PS.... If your into "remote" camping with the Power Wagon, you might be interested in this... Gets you up & off the ground when your way out off the beaten path. Not the cheapest tent I've ever bought, but I'm pretty sure it'll be the last one. Nice high quality cotton canvas & aluminum pole structure and it pack down to a few small storage bags when your done.

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Update!

2017 Powerwagon. I saw this, and I think I am in love! I normally buy late model used, but this could tempt me into a bad decision. lol

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That vehicle is a beast! Of the best kind.
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Old 02-11-2016, 04:17 PM   #23
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[QUOTE=ROBERT CROSS;1698794]Uncle Hubie had a PW....never saw the highway, toed a lot though.



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It's good to see them resurrecting the PowerWagon!


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Just don't understand who thinks that 2016 appearance package with a red grille is something anyone would want.

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I agree with you on the red accents on the grill. I didn't like it either, so I picked up a PW with the Laramie trim. You can get can black accents on the grill with certain colors. Anyway, I am not to sure about the new looks. Reminds me of a Rebel on steroids. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I prefer the stealthy look.

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My observations of a Power Wagon as a tow vehicle

If I wasn't so happy with our '12 Ram CTD I'd definitely buy a Power Wagon. It doesn't get any better mileage but the exhaust brake is really nice to have when going through the Rockies.

BTW, the 56 gallon Titan fuel tank really helps things along (normally only have to refuel once a day when we're on the move).
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