Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-05-2015, 12:53 PM   #197
jcl
Rivet Master
 
Currently Looking...
Vancouver , British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,049
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreasduess View Post
I think JCL might have confused two vehicles - the ML doesn't have the high payload, the GL does. I checked one out over the weekend, door sticker 1695lbs.
My figures were for the 2015 CDN spec ML350 diesel. They are published figures, not door labels. That can matter if you look at a vehicle with lots of options. I tend to stay away from additional options, they are just another thing to break.

Also, the published figures could be wrong. If you take the published GVWR and the published curb weight, the difference is 665 kg, not the 775 kg published. That would mean 1423 lbs payload.

Jeff
__________________

__________________
jcl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 01:01 PM   #198
jcl
Rivet Master
 
Currently Looking...
Vancouver , British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,049
Quote:
Originally Posted by RivetingTrvl View Post
Ron,

I'm curious about your conversation with Andy about this. I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2015 ML350 pulling a 2013 30' Intl Signature. I spoke with one of his sales guy the other day about your comment and he responded that *all* the German diesel SUV's needed hitch reinforcement. In fact, he said the Ford F-series were the only TV's that didn't need any reinforcements.
You are looking at the ML350 gasoline model? Had you considered the ML400 with a higher published towing capacity?
__________________

__________________
jcl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2015, 08:20 PM   #199
2 Rivet Member
 
2015 27' FB International
San Francisco , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 35
If anyone is interested, I'm probably selling my silver 2013 ML; it's very much loaded, and has had the Can Am mod. Since we're full-timing, we just ended up needing a bigger vehicle. Love the ML though. Hate to see it go.
__________________
ciparis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2015, 12:40 AM   #200
2 Rivet Member
 
Southern , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 40
ciparis, sorry to see you leave the ML BlueTec fold.
Are you keeping your International? Let us know what you decide to tow with!
__________________
2010 M-B ML350 Bluetec
2011 Lance 2285 27' TT
mikapen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2015, 12:59 AM   #201
2 Rivet Member
 
2015 27' FB International
San Francisco , California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 35
It's a 2015 Ram 2500 Limited Mega Cab. Also loaded, and a Cummins, of course :-)
__________________
ciparis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2015, 06:02 PM   #202
2 Rivet Member
 
2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
albany , Georgia
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 65
Just returned from using ML 350 Bluetec.

Well I was truly surprised at the pulling power the Mercedes ML 350 Bluetec has. Went up into the North Carolina mountains with 25 foot Airstream and could not believe how easily she was pulling. I thought I would get more than 14 mpg overall but the trip was 850 miles in total. I did 65 mph on the highway and may drop that down next time as getting down to 55 mph does decrease the consumption considerably.
Anyhow, an incredible small powerhouse. My Tahoe would have been struggling at the same inclines and drinking well below the 9 mpg that we got when towing in flat Florida earlier this year.
Just thought I would post my opinions.
__________________
jmpgino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2015, 07:29 PM   #203
Rivet Master
 
65CV's Avatar
 
1959 26' Overlander
Western , Massachusetts
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,449
Images: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmpgino View Post
... Went up into the North Carolina mountains with 25 foot Airstream and could not believe how easily she was pulling. ...
Watch your transmission temperature.
__________________
65CV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2015, 09:17 PM   #204
4 Rivet Member
 
1975 27' Overlander
High River , Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 393
The 7 speed automatic used across the Mercedes range is rated for something like 569 lbs ft. I expect that if it overheard, the electronic control systems will keep the car from hurting itself.

A comparison - Volvo no longer provides atf coolers, and this is clearly not the issue it used to be.
__________________
AlbertF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2015, 09:18 PM   #205
4 Rivet Member
 
1975 27' Overlander
High River , Alberta
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 393
Auto correct! Make that "overheats"! Also, I should say that Volvo no longer sells auxiliary atf coolers.
__________________
AlbertF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2015, 10:48 PM   #206
Rivet Master
 
65CV's Avatar
 
1959 26' Overlander
Western , Massachusetts
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,449
Images: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbertF View Post
..I expect that if it overheats, the electronic control systems will keep the car from hurting itself. ....
Incorrect. It's an extremely expensive repair. We overheated and ruined ours towing a small 2750 pound vintage trailer at very conservative speeds. IMHO, the power plant is far stronger than the transmission.

I repeat -- with experience -- please watch your transmission temperature. Mercedes won't cover it out of warranty.

Sorry, I won't engage further in discussion.
__________________
65CV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2015, 02:45 PM   #207
2 Rivet Member
 
Southern , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by ciparis View Post
It's a 2015 Ram 2500 Limited Mega Cab. Also loaded, and a Cummins, of course :-)
Just think of all those choice sites you will have to pass up because your new mega-wheelbase won't maneuver!!!
Just kidding....
__________________
2010 M-B ML350 Bluetec
2011 Lance 2285 27' TT
mikapen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2015, 03:01 PM   #208
2 Rivet Member
 
Southern , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by RivetingTrvl View Post
Ron,

I'm curious about your conversation with Andy about this. I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2015 ML350 pulling a 2013 30' Intl Signature. I spoke with one of his sales guy the other day about your comment and he responded that *all* the German diesel SUV's needed hitch reinforcement. In fact, he said the Ford F-series were the only TV's that didn't need any reinforcements.
There seems to be some disagreement at Can-Am about this. Early on, the W163 seemed to benefit from reinforcement, and when we called about our 2010 W164 the salesman said we ought to get it. Then, in 2011 when we had the mod made, the mechanic said that our 2010 had a much stouter mounting system and that the reinforcement was less "necessary."
Andy said, "Maybe," but ours was the first W164 they had done.
I know there are more internal chassis reinforcements that are added to the W164's if you get the Factory-installed Hitch - maybe that's sufficient.
You COULD do a hitch deflection test, where you load the ball and measure degrees of deflection. I think most half tons have a pretty large deflection, based on some Can-Am testing, since the frames aren't very well reinforced past the axle. Until the Ram I 2015 and Ford (and more?) in 2016.
__________________
2010 M-B ML350 Bluetec
2011 Lance 2285 27' TT
mikapen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2015, 03:09 PM   #209
2 Rivet Member
 
Southern , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by 65CV View Post
Incorrect. It's an extremely expensive repair. We overheated and ruined ours towing a small 2750 pound vintage trailer at very conservative speeds. IMHO, the power plant is far stronger than the transmission.

I repeat -- with experience -- please watch your transmission temperature. Mercedes won't cover it out of warranty.

Sorry, I won't engage further in discussion.
I wonder if your ML didn't have a rear SAM (comes with the factory hitch) that puts your rig into the Tow mode, changing shift points etc when a 7-pin plug is inserted. Or maybe you used a 4 pin and your ML didn't "see" anything.
Even so, the transmission is much more robust than I expected, towing 10,000 miles in the Colorado mountains and other severe towing conditions including hill country at 105F. Just checked the tranny fluid for deterioration at 60,000 miles and all is well.
__________________
2010 M-B ML350 Bluetec
2011 Lance 2285 27' TT
mikapen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2015, 07:02 PM   #210
3 Rivet Member
 
Mountain View , California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 236
Interesting - do you have any more details on this? I doubt that this is the case, but would be interested to hear details.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikapen View Post

(...)
I know there are more internal chassis reinforcements that are added to the W164's if you get the Factory-installed Hitch - maybe that's sufficient.

(...)
__________________

__________________
bono is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Retromobile Creamed a Mercedes Eaglemate On The Road... 47 12-01-2011 07:04 PM
2008 Roadtrek Adventurous RS 11K miles! Airstream Mercedes Sprinter 25mpg NR eBay Watch Airstreams on eBay 0 10-27-2011 05:40 PM
2004 airstream powered by mercedes diesel,16k miles,serviced,generator eBay Watch Airstreams on eBay 0 10-12-2011 12:30 PM
2010 Airstream Interstate 3500 B Van Motorhome with Mercedes Benz Diesel Engine eBay Watch Airstreams on eBay 0 09-17-2011 10:40 AM
L@K Airstream Mercedes Diesel Westfalia RV Class B OnaN SL@K Airstream Mercedes Diese eBay Watch Airstreams on eBay 0 03-28-2011 02:00 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.