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Old 03-10-2014, 10:07 AM   #15
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The only assembly point in the world for the Mercedes ML and GL is in Alabama. The factory has all the parts to make the finished vehicle comply with the applicable vehicle regulations in the target dealer's country.

The tow rating of 5,000 pounds also applied to my 2007 ML 320 CDI. The service manager was adamant on that point.

The 1990 25' Excella has a GVW of 6,800 pounds which includes the 50 gallons of water. My 2013 25FB has a GVW of 7,300 pounds which includes the 39 gallons of water and a data plate empty weight of about 5,665 pounds without the Hensley hitch or solar system installed.

When I crossed the CAT scales loaded for camping with the wife in the car, the front axle rating was exceeded and the door jamb GVW was exceeded. The weight of the trailer was at 6,960 pounds. I could have played with the Hensley to move the weight from the front axle to the rear axle of the ML and not exceeded the totals for the axle ratings, but would still have exceeded the car's GVW. The drive train was not happy with the load.

A clarification point is that a 1,400 pound payload is typical of a ton truck while ton units may have an additional 1,000 pounds of payload.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:18 PM   #16
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The tow rating of 5,000 pounds also applied to my 2007 ML 320 CDI. The service manager was adamant on that point.
We stopped yesterday to look at a 2011 GLK350. Salesman said "no way" to towing 5800# FC25. He said GL450 at least. Not wanting to get into another marginal or questionable situation, I passed on the idea. But, it's nice to see others have made it work so well. It was a fine looking car.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:57 PM   #17
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Swtiz...

Your trailer is 5,665 dry while mine is 5,100. My wife and I travel light with mostly empty tanks so I think we're fine. I appreciate your concern though.

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Old 03-10-2014, 01:58 PM   #18
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We stopped yesterday to look at a 2011 GLK350. Salesman said "no way" to towing 5800# FC25. He said GL450 at least. Not wanting to get into another marginal or questionable situation, I passed on the idea. But, it's nice to see others have made it work so well. It was a fine looking car.
Salesman is correct...the GLK just doesn't have the payload or tow numbers on it's side. The GL (or seven ML) has the capability you're looking for.
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:46 PM   #19
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The new GLK250 BlueTec diesel with 369 Ft Lbs torque at 1600 rpm with a base price under $40,000 sounds interesting. Great fuel economy. One of those vehicles rated lower than its capability and I'll leave it at that.


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Old 03-10-2014, 04:02 PM   #20
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I was driving thru downtown yesterday and saw you returning west bound on I-10.
Good looking rig !
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:13 PM   #21
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We stopped yesterday to look at a 2011 GLK350. Salesman said "no way" to towing 5800# FC25. He said GL450 at least. Not wanting to get into another marginal or questionable situation, I passed on the idea. But, it's nice to see others have made it work so well. It was a fine looking car.
The salesman did you a big favor. If he really knows his fleet, he would say the same with the GL 450.

I towed my old 23 with two different GLs; one a blutec and the other a 450. There are those who post in this forum who will tell you that you can tow a 31 with the retrofit from hitch specialists.

What I haven't seen in the way of posts is any comments WRT to the task any trailer 25ft and longer will put on the transmission.

Call MB USA and ask them. I did, and you talk about being their techs being evasive.

The 23 I towed with my two GL's told me enough (WRT the transmission) to convince me that I needed an upgrade.
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:57 PM   #22
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The weight in Canada for the ML320 cdi is 7400lbs the same in Europe. In US is 5000lbs. How can that be if they are both built in Alabama. Maybe the ML500 is different? I visited my tech at the Mercedes dealer to discuss given the Classic we have would be over if filled. He was not concerned and said that it could tow more not to worry.
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Picked up our new 2014 GL 350 BlueTec yesterday. Very nice vehicle. Love the adaptive cruise control option. Matches traffic speed if slower than set point, accelerates back up once way is clear. Heck, it even will bring the vehicle to a complete stop, if traffic stops, and hold it there until you press the accelerator once traffic moves, then it takes over again. Way cool.

Spent some time adjusting the hitch. Had to raise the head 2.5" to bring it back to proper ball height compared to the Tundra. Mounted the Prodigy RF brake controller, but couldn't get the hand controller to pair, so a call to tech services tomorrow. Some others have said they had to pair using a different vehicle, then it worked. Weird. So once I get the brakes working, I'll run to the scales and get it dialed in. Looking forward to our first trip of the season coming up Easter weekend. If folks are interested, I'll post weights before and after.

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Tech support was very helpful when my GL became unpaired (MB service had checked the SAM module) and it wouldn't pair back up. Had 2-3 bouts of frustration and then they sent me a brand new Prodigy RF. Before exchanging the unit on my AS I plugged in the new handheld controller and was able to pair up immediately so apparently the simple solutions work sometimes. They reported very few component failures (they are pretty simple devices after all) so be prepared for them to run you through some troubleshooting before being willing to send you a new unit. Also, the LED running lights are often the culprit since they don't have enough resistance for the GL SAM to recognize the lamps. Sometimes the blinking LED's are so faint you might not even see them if you're just checking that the lights and turn signals are working. I sent you a PM as well.
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Old 04-10-2014, 05:43 AM   #25
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I read recently that the newer Dodge Durango and Jeep GC are on the same "platform" as the ML.

what exactly does that mean?
It doesn't use the same power train...body looks different. So what are they talking about when they say "platform?"

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I went from a '98 ML to a '05 ML to a '12 Durango. We love the Durango. It feels very much like the MLs, with a bit more room, like a GL. Tows just as well.
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I went from a '98 ML to a '05 ML to a '12 Durango. We love the Durango. It feels very much like the MLs, with a bit more room, like a GL. Tows just as well.
Did you get the 6, or 8?
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8 in both the ML and Durango.
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Nice.
Its on my short list for a new tv...but sadly, rare on the used market. In any vehicle in this class, its tough to find one that has the correct mechanicals, without also including a whole bunch of superfluous bling (putting it out of my price range.).
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