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Old 09-18-2019, 05:29 PM   #21
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Love the color!

Olgoat, thatís one fine looking rig! Thereís something about that color that looks really good in front of an Airstream too
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:59 PM   #22
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Ol goat has good taste, right!
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Old 09-18-2019, 07:25 PM   #23
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People on this forum will argue but there is a huge difference in the towing experience overall moving to a F250 or F350 from a F150 with a larger Airstream trailer.I have yet to read a regret trading to a more capable tow vehicle
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Old 09-18-2019, 09:06 PM   #24
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Great looking rig!
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Old 09-19-2019, 12:17 AM   #25
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Have a 2016 F150 ecoboost towing a 28'. Just came back from Yellowstone to the east through the Big Horn Mountains via a 9600 foot pass on route 16 with 8% grades. Tow-mode downshifts the trans nicely on grades. The engine has enough power to easily handle even this but the suspension is lacking stability. Bouncing all over on rough roads is the main problem. Not fun. Have air bags too. Moving to a f250 one day soon.
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Old 09-19-2019, 11:50 PM   #26
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Nice pics!
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Old 09-20-2019, 08:02 AM   #27
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Have a 2016 F150 ecoboost towing a 28'. Just came back from Yellowstone to the east through the Big Horn Mountains via a 9600 foot pass on route 16 with 8% grades. Tow-mode downshifts the trans nicely on grades. The engine has enough power to easily handle even this but the suspension is lacking stability. Bouncing all over on rough roads is the main problem. Not fun. Have air bags too. Moving to a f250 one day soon.
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Old 09-20-2019, 10:55 AM   #28
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Have a 2016 F150 ecoboost towing a 28'. Just came back from Yellowstone to the east through the Big Horn Mountains via a 9600 foot pass on route 16 with 8% grades. Tow-mode downshifts the trans nicely on grades. The engine has enough power to easily handle even this but the suspension is lacking stability. Bouncing all over on rough roads is the main problem. Not fun. Have air bags too. Moving to a f250 one day soon.

You might want to consider removing the Air Bags.
They don't work well with Fords.
I had the same set up and the same problem with airbags. Couldn't remove them fast enough. The rear end of the truck felt like it was teetering.
I removed them and installed the Roadmaster helper springs. It was a 100 percent improvement. Easy install I highly recommend it. Solved sagging and improved rear suspension stability dramatically.
Upgraded to an F-250 when we got the 30' Classic.
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Old 09-20-2019, 11:18 AM   #29
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olgoat, you described our experience, but went to an F350 more or less dedicated TV because the DW collects rocks. Big ones.

I was low man on the pole at a trucking firm that had Studebaker single axle gas powered tractors laying around. Low man daily driver. It could do the job. But when I got my hands on a Kenworth or whatever, spoiled me rotten. Similar experience here.
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Old 09-20-2019, 01:26 PM   #30
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Have a 2016 F150 ecoboost towing a 28'. Just came back from Yellowstone to the east through the Big Horn Mountains via a 9600 foot pass on route 16 with 8% grades. Tow-mode downshifts the trans nicely on grades. The engine has enough power to easily handle even this but the suspension is lacking stability. Bouncing all over on rough roads is the main problem. Not fun. Have air bags too. Moving to a f250 one day soon.
You will be surprised at the difference in feel with the F250 and your 28'! Not sure if your thinking gas or 6.7D; we have the D and pulling our 28' puts a smile on my face when I think about it compared to the F150 EB...parking...now that's another discussion. That extra 1' in length takes some getting use to, but we got the F250 for the TV...that was a great decision while towing!
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Old 09-20-2019, 04:42 PM   #31
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Congrats!
We miss the attributes of our 3/4 T for towing.
I do not miss the expensive maintenance of the diesel, however.
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Old 09-21-2019, 01:16 AM   #32
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congrats!
We miss the attributes of our 3/4 t for towing.
I do not miss the expensive maintenance of the diesel, however.
true that!
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Old 09-22-2019, 10:48 AM   #33
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2018 F150 and 2017 27FB - best balanced rig. Have been on all types of roads and mountains - no problems. And, the ride is comfortable when towing and in town driving. I think a balanced rig is important and have pondered this a few years. I am still not convinced that an F250 is needed for an Airstream 28 foot trailer. I wouldnít post to this but I wanted newbies to get all opinions. If my salesman would have known more about tow vehicles I would have bought the 27FB the first time around. Nope an F250 is not needed and it is a different ride.
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Old 09-22-2019, 11:16 AM   #34
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2018 F150 and 2017 27FB - best balanced rig. Have been on all types of roads and mountains - no problems. And, the ride is comfortable when towing and in town driving. I think a balanced rig is important and have pondered this a few years. I am still not convinced that an F250 is needed for an Airstream 28 foot trailer. I wouldnít post to this but I wanted newbies to get all opinions. If my salesman would have known more about tow vehicles I would have bought the 27FB the first time around. Nope an F250 is not needed and it is a different ride.
I have used both a F150 and F350 to pull our 28ft International both for many miles.I can honestly state that it can be done with a F150 but the F350 does a much better job and rides better hitched to the trailer.Its borderline for the F150 as it is better suited to a lighter tongue weight trailer.The F350 has no equal when pulling this trailer.
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Iím a newby to all this. I purchased a sweet little Ď05 23í safari and now need the right TV to pull it easily and safely over western mountain passes. Donít need something bigger than needed or super expensive. The rig may sit until needed to tow or haul heavy load. Gas mileage imp. Do you experienced AS ers think a f15o is sufficient? Also, will a diesel 250 do as good on gas as a gas F150? Pros and cons please- for 23í AS TV ???? (Not attached to ford F series - just heard they are reliable trucks)
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Old 09-22-2019, 12:07 PM   #36
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An F-150 will do it. No need for a F 250 for a 5000 pound trailer with a 500 lb tongue weight.
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Iím a newby to all this. I purchased a sweet little Ď05 23í safari and now need the right TV to pull it easily and safely over western mountain passes. Donít need something bigger than needed or super expensive. The rig may sit until needed to tow or haul heavy load. Gas mileage imp. Do you experienced AS ers think a f15o is sufficient? Also, will a diesel 250 do as good on gas as a gas F150? Pros and cons please- for 23í AS TV ???? (Not attached to ford F series - just heard they are reliable trucks)


A F150 would be a great choice for your 23.Depending on how you camp and how much stuff you take on adventures pay close attention to the payload rating of each truck that you look at.They are all different with a wide range in ratings.There is a sticker located to your right when you open the drivers door that tells all.Good luck and safe travels
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I added a Gen-y torsion hitch to my 2017 250 / 2016 28 foot AS combo and it increased my towing comfort.
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Iím a newby to all this. I purchased a sweet little Ď05 23í safari and now need the right TV to pull it easily and safely over western mountain passes. Donít need something bigger than needed or super expensive. The rig may sit until needed to tow or haul heavy load. Gas mileage imp. Do you experienced AS ers think a f15o is sufficient? Also, will a diesel 250 do as good on gas as a gas F150? Pros and cons please- for 23í AS TV ???? (Not attached to ford F series - just heard they are reliable trucks)
Well, we pull a 23 FB Serenity with a GMC 1500 Sierra Denali and it tows like nothing is there. No trouble with crosswinds, etc. We use the Equalizer hitch. Funny story... we use a Furrion camera for our Airstream (rear view) and the regular truck mirror to check the Airstream right behind us. On a recent LONG trip (6,000 miles over 11 days) my husband looked into the Furrion Screen and for a brief moment thought "WHERE IS THE AIRSTREAM?!" (Thinking for a moment it was the tuck mirror!) We had a good laugh. We were tired!! The GMC pulls perfectly and we have no need for larger (Airstream OR truck!) We pulled with a canyon for a year and although we do notice a difference with the larger truck the Canyon did a great job, too! We just wanted the new trailer package and a newer "retirement" vehicle.
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Congratulations upgrading to a F250 diesel. You will enjoy having a truck less stressed. It is important to have WD hitch properly setup. There is a reason Ford recommends using a WD hitch over a certain weight (5000lbs?). The purpose of a WD hitch is to put some of the tongue weight on the front axle. This will be particularly noticeable on the Ford or Ram with the solid front axle. The balance of the load between front and rear on the TV will be safer and help reduce sway from a trailer, considering the greater traction of the tires. Airstreams don't seem to have the propensity to sway much and many people tow without them. But, the Hensley and Pro Pride noticeably reduce the pushing from the trailer that comes from passing trucks and crosswinds. Many things are not 'necessary' in towing, but many make life more pleasant for the driver. Enjoy
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