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Old 04-05-2003, 10:05 PM   #29
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Like Pick, I'm sold on Amsoil in the crankcase as well as the syn. ATF in the auto transmission. I still have a few miles to go before my first Allison trans. fluid drain but Amsoil ATF will go in it. I am already running the Amsoil Series 2000 75W-90 gear lube in the rear along with a Mag Hytec aluminum finned high capacity differential cover. When I get caught short of Amsoil in stock, I run Mobil One but for a shorter drain interval. Amsoil has not made a SDF filter for my 8.1 engine yet but offers the Hastings filter on their site which I have found to be fine.
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Old 04-05-2003, 10:32 PM   #30
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I have a '01 2500hd shortbed ext. cab with 8.1 litre engine and Allison 5 speed transmission. The truck has 3.73 rear end gears. Either the 1500hd or the 2500hd with 6.0 would be a good combo for you with the 4.10 rear end. This engine has a flat torque curve and likes the 4.10 rear. The 1500hd and 2500hd with 6.0 both use the same 4 sp. auto transmission. I test drove the 6.0 with 4.10 and really liked it but was worried about the CSK (cold start knock) that was plaguing many of these engines during the '01 and '02 years. I chose to get my present truck and have been extremely pleased with it. I get mid to high 14's on the highway w/o AC, 10 in town with A/C on and anywhere from 10 to 13 towing on the highway. The 6.0 will get better mileage on the highway and about the same as mine, maybe slightly better when towing. Either platform with the 6.0 would make a good tow vehicle for your Overlander.
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Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
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Old 04-05-2003, 11:57 PM   #31
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PISTON SLAP is a REAL problem for GM, they know it, and are still trying to find a cure.
PISTON SLAP should not be confused with COLD SART KNOCK. Piston slap never goes away and sounds worse than a Diesel!
Before denying it , please research all the Forums and technical sites on the Web. Just because you are lucky to have one of the few good engines should'nt prevent you from researching the subject to get the big picture.
My next truck will be a pre 99 gm , as I prefer them to Fords (too bulky and tall for my taste)

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Old 04-06-2003, 01:25 AM   #32
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Before denying what? I spent plenty of time on www.pickuptrucks.com to know that GM had a problem that I did not want sitting in my driveway. The 6.0 I test drove did not have a problem but then it had less than 5 miles on the odometer. There are members on this forum who have GOOD 6.0 and 8.1 litre engines and I'm sure some that have problems. I've heard that problems were caused by piston skirts that were too short as well as carbon deposits in the heads. Who knows what is causing the problem but I'm glad I don't have it.
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Old 04-06-2003, 10:29 AM   #33
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My remarks are general remarks, not related to your posts
However your last post should end with ""YET"

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Old 04-06-2003, 01:06 PM   #34
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I definately understand the YET! When Ford came out with the Power Stroke Diesel, they had a number of problems which they finally admitted to. They replaced engine and engine components left and right. GM has been very slow to admit to any problem and says that "it is normal with this engine." Problem is, piston slap and cold start knock have been addressed on www.pickuptrucks.com for some 5.3, 6.0 and 8.1 engines and there are many out there who have gas engines that sound like diesels. While the standard power Cummins diesel sold in the Dodge trucks is a good engine, I cringe when one drives by. They are LOUD and you couldn't give me one. The Duramax in the Chevy, Ford's new diesel and the HP version of the Cummins are by far quieter engines, if I had wanted a diesel with it's louder engine then I would have bought one. I think this is what is bothering people in addition to the fact that they think the engine will not last. I loved my '92 Z71 with 5.7 and never had any engine problems up until the truck was rolled at 143,000 miles by my teenager. Even after the roll, I wish I could have pulled that engine because it was in great shape.
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Old 04-07-2003, 07:30 AM   #35
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On to the buying process...

Thanks for everyones input. I started wheeling and dealing this past Friday with my local dealer.

I walked in there knowing exactly what I want and close to 2 hours later I finally get a price for my vehicle of choice. All that sitting and waiting...what's up with that? If they were busy, I'd understand why, but for much of the time I was there I was the only one around.

We'll see how today goes.

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Old 04-09-2003, 09:20 PM   #36
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It's a done deal...

Went with the Chevrolet 1500HD, VORTEC 6000 V8, 4x4.

Since we have chldren we went with the Crew Cab - 4 door model. Color - Black

My local dealer had to track me down a vehicle with the 4.10 rear end but they quickly cam up with one.

I have to say I'm very pleased thus far. I havent pulled anything as of yet but there seems to be plenty of power. It rides so quiet compared to my Excursion.

I know I'm going to miss the Excursion, especially for all it's room, but I won't miss standing at the pump twice as long as all those around me.

Thanks for everyones input, it was great hearing all the opinions.

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I know I'm going to miss the Excursion
I don't think so. You'll find that if you put a cap on that truck, you'll have every bit as much room AND you'll be able to carry generators and gas cans, propane bottles to be filled, dirty and heavy stuff like patio rug, grill, lawn chairs, folding table, firewood, garden hose, wash bucket, etc, etc, etc... much of that stuff that you wouldn't want in a passenger compartment, especially in an accident. A pickup with a cap is far better for trailering than an SUV.

Congratulations, Tim!
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Happy to hear your Vortec is quiet....Let us know when it starts to be noisy due to piston slap.
Are you aware of the problem ? or did you believe the salesman?
(they didn't find a cure yet)

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congrats on the new rig!

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p.s. post some pics of it!
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Nice going. I don't think you will be disapointed.

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Silvertwinkie,

I wouldn't mind getting the 8.1L in a Tahoe, but the only choices are pickup or Suburban. Anyone know why?

Tahoe is a 1/2 ton vehicle with a relatively short wheelbase. I don't know its towing ratings but I don't see how they can be comparable to towing ratings of a 3/4 ton truck.

FWIW, the people I got my A/S from told me they towed this 32' Excella with a Tahoe. I did not inquire about the details but don't think it ever came with anything bigger than the 5.7L engine and 3.73 rear (as the lowest rear). So I know it *can* be done but not sure I want to try something like that with my '32 unit.

Also Chevrolet 1500 HD is like base 2500 - is that still true? Older Ford vehicles were like that. They should abandon the whole 1500/2500 hierarchy and just rate them based on actual tons, GCWR I suppose.
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how much di you pay?

Especially in relation to the invoice or sticker. ie (or is it eg) $500 over invoice or $3000 off sticker.
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