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Old 12-23-2007, 12:17 PM   #1
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Looking for opinions on a truck (pull vehicle)

We own a 1984 International, and are now looking at what might pull it. We are partial to the Japanese manufacturers (Honda, Nissan and Toyota). We are partial to the Honda truck as it has 4 doors, all wheel drive, and is like a large station wagon. Our concern will something like this pull the 34' Airstream? The Toyota is more of a contractor's truck (3/4 ton truck)... nice, but you need a ladder to get inside. Any "opinions" would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 12-23-2007, 12:34 PM   #2
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The only two trucks made by those companies that I think could get the job done are the Nissan Titan and the Toyota Tundra (07-08 with 5.7 motor). I am partial to the Tundra because I own one. Getting into the truck is simple if you add a step bar. My wife often comments about how much she loves getting into the truck since I installed the bars. They look good too!
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Old 12-23-2007, 05:08 PM   #3
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Northway---Welcome to the forums. It's a great place to ask ??.

Much has been posted already about what size vehicle for a given trailer. You are smart to look for an appropriate TV for you new trailer. Be sure to ascertain the GVW of your trailer and its tongue wt. Then, consider the GVW of the tow vehicle which needs to be greater than all the stuff you intend to carry plus the trailer tongue wt. Also, consider the combined vehicle wt rating for your TV. You may find that your preferred manufacturers do not sell trucks in the needed capacity in North America.
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Old 12-23-2007, 05:45 PM   #4
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U will find varying opinions here. Just keep in mind the weight of that loaded tralier and what it takes to stop it without the help of its brakes,which I was force to do once. I hope never again. I have a F350 Crew/Deisel that weighs in at 7600 lbs and it had new brakes, I needed everybit of that weight,I dont believe that a Japanese made truck that could even come close.
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Old 12-23-2007, 06:10 PM   #5
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Honda doesn't sell any trucks in the North America (mini van based ute-ute) and Toyota does not sell any 3/4 ton trucks in the North America.

Not sure what you are looking for, only US made trucks that are commonly available in North America could safely tow that 34'.

Volvo does sell some commercial chassis, also Mercedes, but these would not be widely available.
...maybe some of the European Guys can chime in.

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Old 12-23-2007, 06:26 PM   #6
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None of the Japanese manufacturers sell a 3/4 ton in North America. Pulling a 34 footer with anything less would not be within my comfort zone, but to each his own.

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Old 12-23-2007, 10:32 PM   #7
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Isuzu makes some box trucks that would probably do it....

Better to get a Ford/GM/Mopar 3/4 or 1-ton with a diesel.

That or get a smaller trailer. You're wanting to pull a monster with a mouse. 34' is a BIG trailer. You need some chassis in addition to the muscle.

I pull a 34' Avion with a 4-door long bed Dodge diesel. It does very well.
I used to own a 1/2 ton Suburban...it was probably my favorite vehicle of all time...but I don't think it'd be adequate for the 34 footer. Maybe a 26' or so. My Avion weighs 6500lbs empty and 9600lbs gross. I'm not sure of the weight of an '84 Airstream 34 footer...but I bet it's pretty close to mine. A Tundra won't cut the mustard. Nor will a Titan. You need more chassis.

Sorry dude, but if you like Japanese, you're gonna have to look at the Isuzu. The other trucks are too small.

Take care, and I'll see ya on the road!
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Old 12-24-2007, 07:32 AM   #8
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TV.... opinions....

GREAT knowledge posted! WOW! Yes, I think something like a Ford F350 with a diesel engine would be great, with larger tires where applicable. Having lots of rubber on the road will help, and the pulling power of the diesel will be beneficial! Used to have a diesel Mercedes. Darn thing just would not start in our cold weather here... but new technology will have changed that! There again the car was 25 years old, and it was a dream on the highway, once you got it rolling!

Thank you for all the knowledge! Experience is everything!

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Old 12-24-2007, 08:01 AM   #9
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34 is a lot of trailer. None of the half tons will pul it safely. With a trailer that big you need wheel base and power. I pull a 06 Classic 31 currently 8800 lbs loaded with a 06 F-250 Diesel long bed 4X4. It pulls and stops it well.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:33 AM   #10
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probably get flamed for suggesting this but check out canamrv in London, Ontario. They have LOTS of experience towing 34's with Chrysler 300m's and the such. An option.

I live in London and have seen these setups. They work but I'm a truck guy and pullmy 27FBSE with a Duramax.
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Brief and to the point..... IMHO

Do you want to worry about the TV over heating? Do you want to worry about how much weight you've put in the bed of the truck, wondering if your going to have too much weight and overheat the engine, and then notice that everyone else is passing you by because you've got the peddle to the metal and only going 20 kph/mph? AND, the truck is running HOT?!

Do you want to worry about how much "stuff" you have in the Int'l? Not wanting to fill the fresh water tank because it'll be too heavy? Oh, and let's not forget having to stop, real fast, with all that weight behind you? And the wear and tear of the Tranny and truck overall?

I had a new truck that I was towing with (4.7L) V8 and, I only have a 25ft AS. Worrying about what time to leave (traffic - stop/go) for fear of over heating the TV.

Oh, and if you've not read the papers, Toyota is having a weee bit of a problem with trannys/throwout bearing and kinda overstating their towing capabilities.

As everyone else is telling you.... That's a lotta trailer you'll be towing. Many of us are not made of $$ but, better to get what you need now then suffer the "Woulda, shoulda, coulda" syndrom.

Sorry for being long winded.

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We own a 1984 International, and are now looking at what might pull it. We are partial to the Japanese manufacturers (Honda, Nissan and Toyota). We are partial to the Honda truck as it has 4 doors, all wheel drive, and is like a large station wagon. Our concern will something like this pull the 34' Airstream? The Toyota is more of a contractor's truck (3/4 ton truck)... nice, but you need a ladder to get inside. Any "opinions" would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Lawrence Northway
Ottawa, Canada
I tow an '86 Sovereign 25' with an '01 Chevy 2500hd, 8.1 and 5 speed Allison transmission. I love the truck but if anything ever happens to it, I'm buying a Chevy Duramax diesel if that tells you anything.
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I tow an '86 Sovereign 25' with an '01 Chevy 2500hd, 8.1 and 5 speed Allison transmission. I love the truck but if anything ever happens to it, I'm buying a Chevy Duramax diesel if that tells you anything.
I think it is hard to justify the cost of a new TV when there are great trucks like this available used. While it may be a search to find what you want, they're out there. My 02 Burb is in great shape, it has everything I wnated minus the Allison. Now if Chevy would come out with a crate engine diesel I'd never change out my 02 2500HD.
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Be sure to ascertain the GVW of your trailer and its tongue wt. Then, consider the GVW of the tow vehicle which needs to be greater than all the stuff you intend to carry plus the trailer tongue wt. Also, consider the combined vehicle wt rating for your TV. You may find that your preferred manufacturers do not sell trucks in the needed capacity in North America.
Take this to the bank! GVWR minus curb weight = payload capacity. Within that payload limit you must accommodate all TV cargo - humans, fuel, ready-to-camp hitch weight, iPods - everything! I know of no way to feel good about overburdening a tow vehicle in the long run. Tow capacity is a phantom of the marketing department. The engineers design to the GVWR and if you follow this limit you'll find the tow capacity is never approached.

I owned and sold the first Titan among AIR Forums members -- principally because of a very low payload of around 1400#. It could pull my 6000# Safari just fine thank you, but I maxxed out capacity with two people and 100# of dogs -- no truck cap, no bikes, no canoe, no genset, no toolbox, no joy. I loved that truck but had to become a happy Duramax owner now (Cummins or Ford hard to beat either).
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