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Old 09-06-2013, 06:59 PM   #1
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Looking at Ford 250 versus 150 - possible to overdo it on tow vehicle

We currently are towing our 2008 23Fb with a 5.7 V8 toyota Tundra TRD. I will probably be looking at getting a new tow vehicle in the next several years and test drive the Fords today in addition to looking at the 2014 Tundra.

I was reading some post recently that suggest sticking with a 150 type truck versus upgrading to 250 due to the harshness of the upgraded heavy duty trucks causing vibration damage to the AS.

Main factors for us looking at upgrading would be increased payload capacity and improved control/confidence on big mountain passes which we do fairly often.

Can someone shed light on whether the F250 would introduce ride harshness that could do more damage to our AS or if there are after market products that could minimize that such as air shocks?

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Old 09-06-2013, 07:28 PM   #2
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I purchased our F250 in November and probably have towed our 25 ft FC between 5 and 6 thousand miles. It is a truck and the ride is not as smooth as our old Yukon. That said, I have not seen any damage to our AS caused by the ride. It is my opinion that the damage is caused by the condition of the roads; especially here in the Northeast where potholes abounds.

I also remember years ago when I was taking a packaging course in graduate school, the comment being made that any vehicle being towed was subject to road vibrations.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:49 PM   #3
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First off, trucks built in the past 5 years ride smoother then trucks from 10-20 years ago.

1 aftermarket solution some use to soften the ride on heavier duty trucks is use some of the extra payload.

In general with heavy duty trucks have a softer ride, the more weight they are carrying (till you get to max load).

In other words if you get a heavy duty truck because you need the payload capacity it shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:03 PM   #4
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6,000 miles so far no problems 2010 Ford F 250 200" plus wheelbase blue ox sway pro hitch 1500 lb bars 2007 25' Classic
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:34 PM   #5
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I do believe that a 250 would be overkill for a 23' trailer, unless somehow the truck's payload is a limiting factor.
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Old 09-07-2013, 03:33 PM   #6
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My 150 ecoboost can tow 11,300lb and my payload is 2760lb. More than adequate for me and when not towing I get great fuel economy considering it is a 6000lb truck.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:20 PM   #7
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Thanks for the responses. Those of you with F250s - any evidence of rough ride damage on your airstream (popped rivets, drawers falling out, screws coming loose etc)?
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:55 PM   #8
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We have had a long series of F 250s. The current one (a 2012 crewcab diesel) rides very nice and doesn't smell like a diesel. We really like it.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:10 PM   #9
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Stick with the Tundra for your 23' Airstream, unless you have some other need for a heavier truck. It's more than enough.

If you're looking ahead, each year we are seeing more efficient, softer riding trucks with good load capacity. Small diesels are about to arrive. Be patient, the best truck for you may be coming soon

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Old 09-08-2013, 04:05 AM   #10
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I solved the harsh ride question associated with my Ram 2500HD diesel by replacing all the steel springs front and rear with a Kelderman level ride air bag suspension system. The door post has two tire pressures for the load E rear tires (max pressure is 80 psi) of 45 psi empty and 70, psi when loaded. The ride is not a 60s Cadillac boat ride, but is not harsh either due to the air expansion tanks that absorb pulses from the air bags from hitting bumps in the road and cushions the ride.

Since we are migrating to a 9,000 pound GVW 27FB Classic in January, we need the 3/4 ton capacity truck for the payload of both the tongue weight of the trailer and all the extra things we take with us like generators, gasoline, extra propane tanks, ladder, wheel blocks, campfire in can etc.
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Stick with the Tundra for your 23' Airstream, unless you have some other need for a heavier truck. It's more than enough.

If you're looking ahead, each year we are seeing more efficient, softer riding trucks with good load capacity. Small diesels are about to arrive. Be patient, the best truck for you may be coming soon

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I would hope we will also see a return to trucks that are lower to the ground. I am really tired getting in and out of my last two Silverados, especially the truck's bed.
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I would hope we will also see a return to trucks that are lower to the ground. I am really tired getting in and out of my last two Silverados, especially the truck's bed.
I think we are in an interesting way. Some newer Dodge Rams with air suspension lower to enter and also lower at speed to provide a lower, more efficient profile on the road.

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There is a dump valve in the cab for the rear air bags that lowers the tailgate from the bed being level with the ground down about five inches without changing the tailgate support cables. Even as a short person, I can easily get heavy items onto the tailgate and into the bed of the truck.

The concept of lowering the Dodge body when underway most likely came from their relationship with Mercedes as the air suspension on my 2007 ML320 CDI diesel lowers an inch at highway speeds, except when towing. One would have to have an tow vehicle air adjustable hitch if the vehicle lowered an inch only at higher speeds even when towing.
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Or adjust the hitch for traveling height. I'm sure this will be a topic of discussion soon as folks start to use them.

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