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Old 01-29-2016, 12:15 PM   #29
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Good luck...hope it werks well for you.

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Old 02-02-2016, 01:25 PM   #30
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Nice looking Waggy!

BTW - The V-8 did not have exhaust donuts, only the straight 6 engine did. The header pipe has a flair that fits the exhaust manifold. Leak may be a loose connection, exhaust manifold gasket or the emission air pipes blowing into the manifold.
I think I used Remflex exhaust manifold/header gaskets last time and never had a leak issue again.
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Old 03-05-2016, 06:54 PM   #31
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I had a GW - not sure of the exact year. The 360 engine was a pain, it always ran too hot and would run on after it was shut off. It has loads of add-on (factory) stuff to try to make it feasible but you need to monitor all those temp switches, air pump etc etc. It wouldn't be my first choice.

The 4x4 system seemed very strong.

Real problem was the build quality of the body - especially the rear window - it was the little things that drove me crazy.

In the end gave it to the Girl Scouts as the crank bearings wore out.

Pretty car - done right it would be great.
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Old 01-18-2017, 08:47 PM   #32
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Figured I'd update this thread with progress on the GW. I didn't use it at all for towing this past year (we took 11 trips in the airstream) but have been slowly getting it into shape. I ended up finding a running/driving parts GW that is the same year and color combo with tow package - basically the exact same truck but with the dreaded gas tank skid frame rust. This got me the missing headliner and roof console,rear carpet and a few other odds and ends I needed for a decent price, and it ran really well...

When I bought the gw it had a leaking rear main and it ended up getting way worse very fast. This caused it to run low on oil and eat the oil pump. So, I ordered up a new oil pump but looking through the paper work on the parts jeep, I found that it had a reman engine installed only 16k miles before I got it.

So, rather than replace the oil pump, rear main seal and worry about other damage from the oiling issue, I swapped engines. That's about where I'm at now, I've tuned the engine, installed the aluminum radiator, fixed the exhaust leak (needed a new y pipe) and am now chasing the last few bugs.

Going through the brakes as they felt hard but without a lot of stopping power (and were supposedly refreshed) especially compared to the parts truck, which would stop on a dime, I found that the rear circuit had no fluid. I filled it and it slowly leaked out,with the only evidence some moisture and peeling paint on the frame by the gas tank. So, I'm dropping the gas tank which should allow me to fix the dodgy gas gauge reading at the same time. Good news is that the frame and gas tank skid plate are in perfect shape. Bad news is more work.

One cool thing I did find is that in a bit of serendipity, the GW wheels have the same bolt pattern as the airstream,and in fact the mid 70's slotted aluminum wheels airstream used were the exact same as those used on that vintage Cherokee/wagoneer. Should make carrying a spare easy and I thought about putting the spare set from the parts GW on the airstream for a matched set.

I'm hoping to have it ready for camping in March, but we'll see what happens.
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Old 01-19-2017, 03:13 AM   #33
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I always loved the Wagoneer. It would go well with a polished older Airstream.
I had that red color just like the bottom pic. Very solid vehicle, great air conditioning, loved the 360. Bad mileage but who cares? I would tow with that all day.

Never had anything like it since. I hear they are bringing it back - can't wait to see it (even though I've seen the preview )
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Old 01-19-2017, 06:50 AM   #34
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A Jeep competing with a full size Range Rover? I think not.
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Old 01-19-2017, 04:58 PM   #35
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A Jeep competing with a full size Range Rover? I think not.
I'd take the old Grand Wag over any Range Rover.
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Old 02-02-2017, 11:49 PM   #36
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Gas tank is it out, now to see if I can find the brake issue. It was packed with mud, which is what usually causes the frame damage in these but luckily the paint held up and there's no rust, so just a good cleaning and some paint on the skid plate and it should be good for another 20 years or so. The gas lines look like new and the brake lines look fine, but could be a pin hole where mud was caked on somewhere.
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Old 04-13-2017, 09:26 PM   #37
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Well, took it out for it's first trip! It did a little better than I expected, but a little worse than I hoped (if that makes sense).

I could do 60-65 on the highway without issue but above that it would wag a little. Temp stayed around 200 with one exception being a long hill that it crept up to 220 and speed fell to 55 with my foot to the floor. All in all, it did the job to get here, now to see if it'll get me home.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:34 PM   #38
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Looks really nice.
Consider finding a used Hensley hitch. I used one with my Wagoneer and it was a solid setup.
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Looks really nice.
Consider finding a used Hensley hitch. I used one with my Wagoneer and it was a solid setup.
I'm going to add sway control to the existing hitch and get a front end alignment and see how it does.

Unfortunately, on the ride home the fuel pump quit on me 5 minutes from home. Not a big deal as I had a spare in the garage so I got it home without issue, but took a little luster off the first big trip in it.

Power wise I could maintain 60 on the highway without issue - except for the sway - the hottest it got on the ride home in 85 degree temps was 210 on a couple of long hills, otherwise it stayed around 200. So, power and cooling are adequate, it actually did better than I expected in that respect. I thought it would struggle more on the hills as there were some decent ones but it could do 60 and temps were fine. Brakes were also fine - I installed an Agility controller and set it the same as my pickup and it was fine stopping it.

The ride there was better sway wise so I think I just have to play with the hitch some more - it's a WD and I have the sway control but didn't hook it up. I had more pre-load on the ride there than on the way back and that made a noticeable difference, so with some fine tuning I think it'll be ok. Definitely not as good as my pickup and I can see why the tow rating is 5k - it's not the power, cooling, or brakes, but controlling more than that with the short-ish wheelbase wouldn't be practical at speed.
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I also had Bilstein shocks on my GWag which also helped with general handling characteristics. Check you steering components - tie rods, drag link, ball joints and steering box. Also I had XL rated tires pumped up close to sidewall max pressure which helped the GWag to keep from squirming around.
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I also had Bilstein shocks on my GWag which also helped with general handling characteristics. Check you steering components - tie rods, drag link, ball joints and steering box. Also I had XL rated tires pumped up close to sidewall max pressure which helped the GWag to keep from squirming around.
Yeah, I have C-rated light truck tires at 50psi. I couldn't find any D or E tires in sizes that would fit, but C should be fine and ride is on the harsh side unloaded.

Steering is tight, I just think it needs alignment as it's darty, even unloaded, like it has a little toe in.

Shocks are new and it doesn't float or bounce, it's actually less bouncy than my truck, but if an alignment and hitch adjustment + anti-sway don't help I'll look at Bilsteins.
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