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Old 07-28-2014, 05:54 AM   #57
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Since I don't fulltime, my TV has to be a multipurpose vehicle. While I drive my 12 year old car around in the summer, I need a 4X4 in the winter. I also need a pickup truck to haul stuff (home from the hardware store as well as the occasional trip to the dump).

I used to have a '95 Ford F-350 Crew Cab Long Bed 4X4 (7.3 Powerstroke, 4.10 gears)... good tow vehicle, but hard to live with otherwise. I hit a lot of curbs when turning right (while running solo) because I prefer to stay on my side of the road.

In 2009, I traded the Ford in on a '09 Ram 3500 Quad Cab Short Bed 4X4 (6.7 Cummins, 3.73 gears) and that was very maneuverable. I traded it for a '12 Ram 3500 Crew Cab Short Bed 4X4 (6.7 Cummins, 3.73 gears) in 2012. While I can tell a difference in the turning radius between them, the '12 seems to work for me. I usually don't haul much anyway so I can get by with the short bed... I really don't like crawling on my knees towards the cab anyway. I do like the extra room in the cab though.

I know an argument can be made for both length beds (which is why they still manufacture both) but I'd buy a standard cab if I really had to have a long bed.

Just my $0.02 though, YMMV.
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:00 PM   #58
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Good info on this subject. Thinking seriously about a 2015 F150. Currently have the short bed and I could really use some extra space along with much more payload capacity. I did notice today that you do have to pay attention when making a U turn. Probably could not have made it with a long bed but I suppose one can adjust.
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Old 07-30-2014, 02:49 AM   #59
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Probably could not have made it with a long bed but I suppose one can adjust.
I'd say that is the long and short of it. (pun intended) I park a little further out with my Ram 2500, with a 22' overall length I have to change my driving habits in it versus the commuter metro.

However, as long as I am not going at any kind of speed, sidewalks just turn into speed bumps if I have to climb them in unforeseen situations. That is why trucks have larger tires, they are designed for more than smooth pavement, and it doesn't bother me in the least bit.
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:26 AM   #60
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Interesting, I was complaining that I was having trouble finding a proper parking space for my truck. My wife commented that I didn't psrk the Mitsubishi Eclypse any better. You know, she was right! Jim
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:45 PM   #61
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From your long experience in driving big rigs, I'm sure you've hear the terms when backing up with a trailer.

"Steer the truck towards trouble, the trailer will go where you want it to go"

Pretty simple, and it works!

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i learned to put my hand on top of wheel and steer to way i want trailer to go. guess it just depends on how you learned to go backwards looking in a mirror.. now if you turn your head to look at trailer it go backward with the hand on wheel.. I guess learning on tractor trailer you did not have a back window in sleeper cabs to look through..

what is funny is seeing guys that dont haul a boat/TT often start backing up and get all jacked around.. too funny sometime.

PS: so it seems the crew cab w/8ft bed i went to look at in ( 5hr one way) SC had a rust problem so i bagged it.. now looking at one in VA with crew cab and 6ft bed. But that is longer than the original unit looking at with extended cab and 6ft bed.. seem i am going to try them all out.
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:40 PM   #62
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Carl, I used to travel a lot in my job before retirement, When traveling b between jobs we would always try to get into a campground early in the evening.
It's amazing the entertainment a person can enjoy when you have a cold beer, sitting in your chairs and watch people trying to back into their site.
Husband and wife arguments that are beyond beliefs. It's a lot more interesting than watching the"reality" shores on the tube.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:43 PM   #63
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There is a large percentage of people that can't back up with a trailer attached.Most are unwilling to practice this art.They also are the first ones to blame the equipment.The trailer is too long or to short,the truck is to long or to short or the camping spot is not designed for a trailer this size.Lol...


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Old 07-31-2014, 08:15 PM   #64
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We have a F-250 diesel with the crew cab (four real doors) and the extended bed (8 feet,) 22 feet of pure Detroit iron, and I've never found a spot that I couldn't slip it into.

The long wheelbase (172.4") makes for a very comfortable ride when towing our 27' AS. The 50 feet of total length of our rig (AS + TV) is only 3 ' longer than a "Super cab" (i.e, the suicide door version) short bed model of the F-250. That 3 foot "savings" in length is unremarkable in performance compared to the added storage and comfort of the longer wheelbase model we have.

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Old 08-01-2014, 05:24 AM   #65
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... Husband and wife arguments that are beyond beliefs. It's a lot more interesting than watching the"reality" shores on the tube.
Best argument I can think of for two way radios... sure helps avoid this kinda stuff.
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Old 08-01-2014, 11:11 AM   #66
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Carl, I used to travel a lot in my job before retirement, When traveling b between jobs we would always try to get into a campground early in the evening.
It's amazing the entertainment a person can enjoy when you have a cold beer, sitting in your chairs and watch people trying to back into their site.
Husband and wife arguments that are beyond beliefs. It's a lot more interesting than watching the"reality" shores on the tube.
sounds like good ole southern beer drinking fun..
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Well, it doesn't take much to entertain us southern folks.
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well it seem I have (another) good lead on a truck in VA which is only 3.5 hrs away from me. Its a 2003 crew 2wd with 6.5 bed and fiberglass topper already in place. it needs a trailer brake controller best i can tell. (any hints on good one for TT) Going to see truck in person next week as the poor fellow that owns it had a health issue last week while out of town.

its got 168K miles and CO is second person to own, first was a corp for 50K, second was a friend of current owner, CO bought in 2009 with 118K, so the care of truck can be traced back almost all the way to first mile. He has taken good care and the first owner as well. first

unfortunately the truck i sent to see in GA had a rust problem.. not from road salt but from spending time in Fl near the beach with out a cover or garage. have never seen a bed rusted out with rhino liner on it.

I guess good thing come to those that wait.
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I haven't read all the posts but looks like backing is part of the discussion, I'll just add one thing a fuel tanker driver showed me that he did. He'd survey the spot, find his mark for his front axle tire on the trailer then put his hat on the ground. Backed to his spot and put his hat back on.

I'm not claiming to be the best backer upper but the one thing I really wish my truck came with is mirrors that allow a clean view down the side of the trailer. Without an angled out view. My truck has flip up tow mirrors AND I added strap on extenders.
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I haven't read all the posts but looks like backing is part of the discussion, I'll just add one thing a fuel tanker driver showed me that he did. He'd survey the spot, find his mark for his front axle tire on the trailer then put his hat on the ground. Backed to his spot and put his hat back on.

I'm not claiming to be the best backer upper but the one thing I really wish my truck came with is mirrors that allow a clean view down the side of the trailer. Without an angled out view. My truck has flip up tow mirrors AND I added strap on extenders.
wont work for me.. don't have a hat i want to put on ground.
not sure how that system works. it seem you almost never have a good place to back into and when coming from the right or blind side it a real bear. Good thing about the 250 super duty, and i am sure others, is the mirrors do extend out on both sides. now with elec mirrors you can turn them to see the trailer as well..
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