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Old 05-12-2010, 11:24 PM   #29
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They run off a lubricant, and have half the moving parts (more in some motors).
Hi, I have gone over this, on this forum, once before. So I would like you to answer your own statement. Please name all of the moving parts in a gas engine and then list all of the moving parts in a diesel engine. And to keep it somewhat simple, use V-8's on both. The only way I could come up with half the moving parts was using a four cylinder diesel and a eight cylinder gas engine.
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Sounds like you've bought Ford's story hook, line, and sinker.

Just do one thing when you get a chance....compare the GVWR on both trucks. It's on the sticker in the door frame.

Oh, and good luck.
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4X2 Super cab would be a 7500 # GVWR
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:52 PM   #31
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Take a good look at the 2004-05 (last year built) Excursions - they're built on 3/4 ton pickup chassis, and with the V-10, you'll pull your AS with ease...

You can find some sweet deals on these rigs, and most all of them are decked out in grand style - the 04,05 units have the newer 3-valve cylinder heads and a bit more HP and torque...you can also find these rigs with diesel power - but I don't think they're worth the additional cost due to higher maintenance as they age...

We love our HEAVY 2001 4x4 Excursion - it handles the AS with ease and complete control...and it was really 'cheap' compared with the high-priced new stuff! We get about 9.5 - 10 mpg overall average up in the hills - 55 mph most times...on the flats the Excursion wants to giddy up and go, but we try to rein it in to around 55-60 mph most of the time...

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Old 05-13-2010, 10:41 AM   #32
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Regarding the subject of TV for larger AS; Length does not mean weight, weight means weight. Length might mean sway, like when a flat nose semi or tour bus wizzes past. Point is my '73 31' is light compared to a newer AS of the same size. Interesting to note that my owner's manual shows car as the TV. The cars at the time were built like trucks. However, they were still cars. I have a 1/2 ton and a 3/4 ton truck. The 1/2 has more horse power and torque but I can haul more campfire firewood in the 3/4. I'm not suggesting that the wrong TV be used. I'm suggesting that AS length is not the only criteria, might not even be good criteria except for how one intends to address sway. I think my stiffer 3/4 does a bit better regarding sway.
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I don't think the blanket classification of half-ton, three quarter-ton, etc. are very accurate any longer.
Agree, way to many variables to pigeon hole and label.
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In re aero aluminum trailers:

I think of a TT GVWR of 7,000-lbs as being a dividing line as my point of departure in TV choices.

A fulltimer can dial in the TV choice more exactly than the family man . . . a few thousand miles per year versus 20,000 while towing.

A turbocharged diesel is the optimal TV engine no matter the vehicle it is within for economy and longevity.

AWD is attractive, 4WD not so much. Independent suspension obviously trumps live axle.

But, there seems to be a point in trailer size (and gear to accompany
extended travel) where only a 130" plus wheelbase truck, van or SUV fits the bill.

Until that point, there are a number of good choices.
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Old 05-17-2010, 09:56 AM   #35
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AWD is attractive, 4WD not so much. Independent suspension obviously trumps live axle.

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An observation:

It depends a lot on where you camp.

I have found 4WD very helpful for backing up a gravel incline, for instance.


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2010 F-150 4X2 145" wheel base 5.4 with 3.73 gears and properly equipped -
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16,900 to 17,000 GCVWR
You know, I've actually been there, done that. Will the 1/2 ton tow it? Yes. Will it do it safely in all situations? Maybe. Will you enjoy the experince? Don't know if you will, but I didn't.

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A turbocharged diesel is the optimal TV engine no matter the vehicle it is within for economy and longevity.
For towing performance? Definately. For longevity? Probably. For economy? Not so much anymore if the Diesel you get is later than mid year '07. The gas trucks actually do as well, if not better now, and this is from experience, not the manufacturers fairy tale stuck to the window.
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Do you think he knows I am going to make him my next tow vehicle?
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An observation:

It depends a lot on where you camp.

I have found 4WD very helpful for backing up a gravel incline, for instance.


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I'll second the 4WD. Just last month up at DeSoto SP in Alabama, I had to put it in 4WD to back up on an asphalt drive with a good step incline. In the past 2 yrs. I've had to use 4WD 5 times. Every one was while backing up. Step inclines, wet grass and some lose sand will do it!
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I have driven pretty much every tow vehicle imaginable in a lot of different condtions. Hands down this is my favorite. Towing a 34' it goes through a 100' slalomn 10 MPH faster than a 3/4 ton pick up, rides like a cloud, is so quite you can hear a wisper and easily turns in 14 MPG. When you get there it runs mid to high 20's solo. Plus you have a conversation piece every where you go.
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Towing a 34' it goes through a 100' slalomn 10 MPH faster than a 3/4 ton pick up, rides like a cloud, is so quite you can hear a wisper and easily turns in 14 MPG. When you get there it runs mid to high 20's solo.
That is one sweet rig Andrew. What a great way to travel around the country.

With so many folks wanting a vehicle with a "bed" can you see the day when the truck designers will offer a truck that can match the performance, quiet, and quality ride of the Jag?
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Ok - that beats my T-Rex...
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