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Old 06-30-2014, 09:47 PM   #1
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List of GM Recalls- it's a big one

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General Motors Recalling 8.4 Million More Vehicles
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:20 PM   #2
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Bean counters is one issue, but when the car industry went south many of their suppliers went out of business. Getting new, quality suppliers online has been a huge issue for GM and the likes.

Seems to me that a push button start would eliminate the car key rings that look the one my high school janitor carried around.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:32 PM   #3
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How different are chevy trucks, key looks similar? Airstream used many gm parts and chevy chassis before workhorse took over. I was told by PO not to overload ignition key and even had a separating keyring to isolate the bundle of keys.
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Plus NHSTA still hasn't forced a recall on the (I think these are the years, mine is a 2003) 1999-2003 and now possibly through 2007 for brake line corrosion. NHSTA has been sitting on this for a long time (in engneering or some sort of claptrap). Most think they are reluctant to force a recall becuase the cost would make the ignition key fiasco look like a stocking stuffer on Christmas day. I know I keep a close eye on mine. They show corrosion although the dealer still says they are fine and have not reached the point where they need replacement. If I keep the truck much longer, i will likely have them done for peace of mind.
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Plus NHSTA still hasn't forced a recall on the (I think these are the years, mine is a 2003) 1999-2003 and now possibly through 2007 for brake line corrosion. NHSTA has been sitting on this for a long time (in engneering or some sort of claptrap). Most think they are reluctant to force a recall becuase the cost would make the ignition key fiasco look like a stocking stuffer on Christmas day. I know I keep a close eye on mine. They show corrosion although the dealer still says they are fine and have not reached the point where they need replacement. If I keep the truck much longer, i will likely have them done for peace of mind.
I replaced all the brake lines on my 1997. I had been brought up to believe that replacing the brake lines on an older truck was more or less part of preventative maintenance in this climate.
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Mercedes always bled and refilled their brake lines every two years to keep moisture out on the inside of the brake lines to reduce and or eliminate corrosion issues.
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Mercedes always bled and refilled their brake lines every two years to keep moisture out on the inside of the brake lines to reduce and or eliminate corrosion issues.
If they had used silicone brake fluid,they wouldn't have to.


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Most of the corrosion problems are on the outside of the lines on the GM trucks. Because some pencil necked geek with a green eyeshade thought they would save a buck over coated lines. That was part of the downfall of GM, it was being run by the accountants, and not the engineers. Look at who Ford hired to solve their problems, an aerospace engineer. I have owned many cars and trucks for long terms with our salty roads and have never had this problem. I don't consider it a maintenance item as it can be mostly eliminated by using proper materials.
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Went ahead and got the upgraded brake lines on my Silverado 2500 yesterday. They are the new "kit" that GM has out for the truck. They are plastic coated and should hold up. I'll feel a lot better about rolling down the mountains with these new lines. $700 installed BTW. I figure my family is worth that. Now to start treating the rust on the frame....oh well, a new Dmax is about $50-60k + so I'll try to make mine last a bit longer. It's an '03.


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If they had used silicone brake fluid,they wouldn't have to.


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Silicone brake fluid brings a whole different set of concerns to the table.

My understanding of the issue is fuzzy but it has something to do with the compressibility of DOT 5 (silicone) under high temperature conditions. Think about the brake pedal going to the floor at the bottom of a long hill...

I know that traditionally the use of DOT 5 fluids was discouraged or not allowed on race tracks (where ultimate performance is paramount).

Silicone brake fluid is perfect for vehicles that are to be stored for long periods and that are driven under normal street conditions occasionally.

The other thing to remember about switching to DOT 5 from any mineral based brake fluid is that 100% of the old fluid must be purged from the system. No casual task...

I perform brake fluid flushes every two years on my own vehicles. I own a neat little tester that actually measures the boiling point of the brake fluid in the master cylinder reservoir by boiling it! You might be surprised at what you see if you had the test performed on your own vehicle...

Of course I spent my professional life maintaining European vehicles and I was schooled in this type of maintenance. I just change the fluid!

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Lengthy list of Suzuki recalls:

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...82001339,d.aWw
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Silicone brake fluid brings a whole different set of concerns to the table.

My understanding of the issue is fuzzy but it has something to do with the compressibility of DOT 5 (silicone) under high temperature conditions. Think about the brake pedal going to the floor at the bottom of a long hill...

I know that traditionally the use of DOT 5 fluids was discouraged or not allowed on race tracks (where ultimate performance is paramount).

Silicone brake fluid is perfect for vehicles that are to be stored for long periods and that are driven under normal street conditions occasionally.

The other thing to remember about switching to DOT 5 from any mineral based brake fluid is that 100% of the old fluid must be purged from the system. No casual task...

I perform brake fluid flushes every two years on my own vehicles. I own a neat little tester that actually measures the boiling point of the brake fluid in the master cylinder reservoir by boiling it! You might be surprised at what you see if you had the test performed on your own vehicle...

Of course I spent my professional life maintaining European vehicles and I was schooled in this type of maintenance. I just change the fluid!

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I changed my 1974 Corvette brakes totally in 1984 when I bought it. Brand new callipers with stainless pistons and silicone fluid as was recommended by the Corvette community for storage life and braking ability ( I raced it in auto cross for 15years). I rebuilt the whole car in 1990, brakes were fine as they are today.
Sorry to be off topic with this.



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