Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-01-2010, 04:08 PM   #15
4 Rivet Member
 
withidl's Avatar
 
2002 31' Classic
Houston , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 440
Images: 1
Been There, Doing That ...... Again

At the risk of bringing up Andrew Thompson, (Can-AM RV, London, Ontario, Canada) while I was taking delivery of my 2002 31 foot ASCL I expressed a desire to be able to maneuver it with my Honda 3013 hydrostatic riding lawn mower. The follow photos show the dolly which he fabricated. To use it I do the following:
  • Insert the drawbar into the back flange on the mower (where the diagonal grass catcher strut is inserted in the photo).
  • I raise the AS with the tongue jack
  • Then lower the front stabilizer jacks to support the AS
  • Then raise the tongue jack and position the dolly such that when I lower the tongue jack it inserts into the vertical tube protruding above the dolly
  • Lower the tongue jack into the vertical tube (the mechanical disadvantage puts less than 100 lbs on the mower flange)
  • Raise the stabilizer jacks
  • Pull away with AS
Additionally, if the dolly is flipped over it allows for hand maneuvering by inserting the tongue jack into the tube on the other side of the dolly (REALLY needs to be on level pavement to hand maneuver!).
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Tow Vehicle (would you believe).jpg
Views:	69
Size:	209.6 KB
ID:	112062   Click image for larger version

Name:	Tow Dolly 1.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	206.9 KB
ID:	112063  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Tow Dolly 2.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	231.6 KB
ID:	112064   Click image for larger version

Name:	Tow Dolly 3.jpg
Views:	590
Size:	274.3 KB
ID:	112065  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Tow Dolly 4.jpg
Views:	93
Size:	203.2 KB
ID:	112066   Click image for larger version

Name:	Tow Dolly 5.jpg
Views:	125
Size:	249.3 KB
ID:	112067  

__________________

__________________
withidl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2010, 04:57 PM   #16
Rivet Master
 
easyride's Avatar
 
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by withidl View Post
At the risk of bringing up Andrew Thompson, (Can-AM RV, London, Ontario, Canada) while I was taking delivery of my 2002 31 foot ASCL I expressed a desire to be able to maneuver it with my Honda 3013 hydrostatic riding lawn mower. The follow photos show the dolly which he fabricated. To use it I do the following:
  • Insert the drawbar into the back flange on the mower (where the diagonal grass catcher strut is inserted in the photo).
  • I raise the AS with the tongue jack
  • Then lower the front stabilizer jacks to support the AS
  • Then raise the tongue jack and position the dolly such that when I lower the tongue jack it inserts into the vertical tube protruding above the dolly
  • Lower the tongue jack into the vertical tube (the mechanical disadvantage puts less than 100 lbs on the mower flange)
  • Raise the stabilizer jacks
  • Pull away with AS
Additionally, if the dolly is flipped over it allows for hand maneuvering by inserting the tongue jack into the tube on the other side of the dolly (REALLY needs to be on level pavement to hand maneuver!).
Good way to buckle the stabilizer. Dave
__________________

__________________
easyride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2010, 05:16 PM   #17
4 Rivet Member
 
withidl's Avatar
 
2002 31' Classic
Houston , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 440
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by easyride View Post
Good way to buckle the stabilizer. Dave
I considered that stress. My Limited AS has the electric jacks which go across the entire width of the AS. The jack legs readily take the load without any flexing. I do NOT use the stablizer jacks to LIFT the trailer, only to SUPPORT it after the tongue jack has lifted. I've done it many times without incident as the stablizers easily carry the STATIC load.
__________________
withidl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2010, 07:48 PM   #18
Rivet Master
 
r carl's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin , Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,056
By god there is more than 1 way to move a camper, I would of never thought about using the jack that way.
__________________
r carl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2010, 08:34 PM   #19
2 Rivet Member
 
1974 31' Sovereign
Spring Hill , Florida
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 38
Why not just put a jack stand under the tongue instead of using the stabilizers?
__________________
dorfgog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2010, 10:08 PM   #20
4 Rivet Member
 
withidl's Avatar
 
2002 31' Classic
Houston , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 440
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by dorfgog View Post
Why not just put a jack stand under the tongue instead of using the stabilizers?
The design of the dolly is such that it's axle is about 8" behind the tongue jack tube when connected. This leaves no room on the curb side for a jack stand because the LPG gas line runs UNDER that side of the frame.

On the street side room for a jack stand is very marginal and when the tongue jack is raised sufficiently to move the dolly into position my jack stands have to have blocks under them since they are not quite high enough.

Additionally, jack stands can't be positioned under the body of the AS because the belly pan covers the frame.

But the real bottom line is that the electric stablizer jacks are THERE, they work and they KISS!

Have others ever RISK trying to use the electric stablizers to support their AS, or just ASSumed they will fail?
__________________
withidl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 12:55 AM   #21
3 Rivet Member
 
Harry W's Avatar
 
1978 31' Sovereign
Scottsdale , Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 131
Just a few points - Avoid any significant grade or you may have an exciting ride downhill with the braking capability of a lawn tractor or even a vintage tractor. Also, when you are that close to the front of the trailer, you cannot see to back it up. You need a good spotter with a cell phone ecause you are blind.
__________________
Harry W
4CU Charter Member
AIR # 13858, WBCCI # 2420
Harry W is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 04:41 AM   #22
2 Rivet Member
 
1969 21' Globetrotter
Seattle & Olympic Peninsula , Washington
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 88
I use a 3 point attached hitch to move my AS with my John Deere 4400 tractor once in a while with no issue but I don't think I'd try it with our lawn tractor. Our property is way too steep. I'd end up in the ocean.

Dave
__________________
EvelynDickinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 05:45 AM   #23
Rivet Master
 
r carl's Avatar
 
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin , Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,056
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry W View Post
Just a few points - Avoid any significant grade or you may have an exciting ride downhill with the braking capability of a lawn tractor or even a vintage tractor. Also, when you are that close to the front of the trailer, you cannot see to back it up. You need a good spotter with a cell phone ecause you are blind.
Have breakaway cable in hand while moving with lawn tractor.
__________________
r carl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 08:51 AM   #24
Rivet Master
 
2010 27' FB Classic
N/A , Texas
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,717
I have used a skidloader to move my stuff around. I have a ball and a bracket that I bolt to the bucket. A skidloader has 4 wheel drive and it turns on a dime because of the controls to move it uses joy sticks instead of a steering wheel.
It can pull it up and down hills in the grass or mud or pavement. It's also a pretty safe way to move a trailer in a tight area.
__________________
Bluto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 08:51 AM   #25
Rivet Master
 
purman's Avatar
 
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge , Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
I thought about using my atv but I know it won't take the toung weight with that set up it could work. But I use my John Deer 30 tractor to move it around. Works great.
__________________
Jason

May you have at least one sunny day, and a soft chair to sit in..

2008 5.7 L V8 Sequoia
AIR # 31243
WBCCI # 6987
FOUR CORNERS UNIT
purman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 09:01 AM   #26
Rivet Master
 
easyride's Avatar
 
1977 27' Overlander
1973 27' Overlander
1963 19' Globetrotter
Naples , Florida
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,259
Images: 1
I use a little Kubota 0-category,recently moved trailer up hill to new shelter,had plenty of power,however on the hill,had to steer with the brakes,this was even with the weights on front. Dave
__________________
easyride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 11:10 AM   #27
Rivet Master
 
Mikethefixit's Avatar
 
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood , Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,153
Send a message via Yahoo to Mikethefixit
Never try to move a trailer with a lawn tractor. The trans-axle is not meant to move that much weight even if a dolly such as was previously pictured is used. The brakes on a yard or lawn tractor are only a 2 inch disk with a pad thats only 1/2 in wide and 1 inch long and really are only meant to stop the tractor. Now if you are gonna use a BOBCAT type loader with the setup Bluto has,by all means go for it. AN 8N ford or any tractor that size will also do the trick. There are also electric dollys on the market that have brakes incorporated in them that work very well also.
__________________
Roger & MaryLou
___________________
F350 CREWCAB SW LONG BED
7.3 liter Power Stroke Diesel
1977 27ft OVERLANDER
KA8LMQ
AIR # 22336 TAC- OH-7
May your roads be straight and smooth and may you always have a tailwind!
Mikethefixit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2010, 01:01 PM   #28
4 Rivet Member
 
withidl's Avatar
 
2002 31' Classic
Houston , Texas
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 440
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry W View Post
Just a few points - Avoid any significant grade or you may have an exciting ride downhill with the braking capability of a lawn tractor or even a vintage tractor. Also, when you are that close to the front of the trailer, you cannot see to back it up. You need a good spotter with a cell phone ecause you are blind.
Agreed on the grade. I primarily use the lawn mower to move the AS in/out of the "tight slip" so that I can work on it. This keeps me from having to bring the X5 into the back yard and hook up to the Hensley just to move the AS 20 feet.

As to stressing the lawn mower, it easily moves the AS on the level with it's hydrostatic drive which also acts in breaking; when mowing the lawn the hydrostatic drive is subjected to more stress in reversing direction than when I move the AS; in fact I NEVER use the brake on the mower to start and stop as the hydrostatic drive does it all. As long as the AS is on an essentially level surface the mower has no problem handling it.

When I manuever with the mower if I am not sure of the AS position I just step off, go look, step back on and move several feet, step off, go look, etc. until I have the AS in position. I has worked well.
__________________

__________________
withidl is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Looking for the lawn chair thread Boondocker Off Topic Forum 5 03-28-2006 07:14 AM
Seaside Rally 2005 (New England Unit-Region 1) AirHog WBCCI Rallies & Events 146 05-31-2005 05:26 PM
Misc. ramblings till Our Community 14 03-06-2004 08:11 PM
lawn chairs art Airstream Motorhome Forums 1 07-15-2003 06:38 PM
what is this alum. sob? john hd Vintage Kin 13 02-13-2003 05:17 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.