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Old 04-24-2008, 06:06 PM   #15
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gtwood2,

I think you should consider trading the Land Cruiser for something that is a bit more robust.

Ha Ha Ha trade in the Cruiser, I have to say that the majority of Cruiser owners love them just as much as you love your Airstream, so I laugh hartily at the suggestion.

We are pretty hardcore enthusiasts however it stinks that the two don't seem the best match.

I am in the same boat now looking for an older trailer.

We discussed trading in our economical car for another gas guzzler before we would ever part with our 1983 FJ60 Landcruiser.

hmmmmm.......Man gas is expensive
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:05 PM   #16
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A friend of mine had one of these. Surprisingly heavy, so I'd imagine that you'd be pushing it pretty hard. The short wheelbase of the vehicle is the real drawback.

Contact Andy Thompson of Can Am RV (posts here), I'd imagine he's done some back in the 1990's.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:40 AM   #17
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This is an '03 thread that had a couple of posts in '05, but since MuthaMustard is looking for Cruiser towing info I'll add a little...

I have had a '70 FJ-40 with the 1F engine, a '78 FJ-40 with the 2F, and '82 and '87 FJ-60s with the 2F engine over the years. The later model FJ-80s and descendants looked nice but didn't much appeal to me.

As the Cruisers have aged, they've put on weight. LOTS of it (and they were heavy for their size already). They've gotten a little more engine, but not much. They still have trouble getting out of their own way on the freeway, but that's not what they were designed for. They were designed to get you where you want to go, reliably, with or without roads.

That said, they were developed from a utilitarian tractor with a cab into chic mommy-mobiles for the mass market appeal of SUVs in the '90s. They were still competent off-road busses, but they looked nicer. They were also expensive, and very few of them ever left the pavement because they weren't bought by people who really needed an off-road bus or who were willing to risk the sheetmetal on their $50k SUVs.

Which brings me to that I currently have an '02 Tundra Access Cab 4WD auto trans with the 3.4l V6 and the tow package that I tow my 5300lb (as-equipped) '06 Bigfoot 25B25RQ with, a very similar setup to the '90s vintage FJ80 series. I tow it locally (usually less than 50 miles to local campgrounds) and while it will do it, I have absolutely no illusions about it being an adequate tow vehicle as it's maxed out at it's capacity hauling the Bigfoot. I couldn't imagine trying to tow another thousand pounds with it, and even at 5300 lbs I couldn't imagine trying to tackle anything larger than our hills in eastern Iowa with that combination. I use a Reese Dual Cam WD/sway control hitch. With $3.50 gas, I am considering hauling the Bigfoot to Moraine View using the Tundra this year. Fortunately it's a flat drive, if somewhat longer. We'll see.

Stick to the smaller, lighter trailers with the FJ-80 'Cruisers and you'll have a pleasant towing experience. They're just not up to the task of towing anything approaching their tow limit of 5,000 lbs. The FJ-60 and 62 apparently have a tow capacity of 3500 lbs which (remembering their less than rocket-ship performance) I'd imagine would max them out as well.

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Old 04-25-2008, 08:56 AM   #18
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I had a 1998 Toyota Landcruiser (with V8) and pulled a 25' Tradewind and a 25' Excella. The '98 was geared with a 4.31 rear end and was rated to tow 6500 lbs. It pulled fine, even in the mountains. The short wheelbase was a problem, though. I traded mine on a new Tundra and am very pleased with the result. If you need to keep the Land Cruiser, buy the Bambi. Bigger trailer will need a bigger tow vechicle. Don't expect Land Cruiser quaility, even in a Toyota product (i.e. a new Tundra) if you buy another tow vechicle.
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Old 04-25-2008, 09:00 AM   #19
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I have owned an FJ55 and for all the comments about a V8 having more torque, that is just a generalization that isn't valid. Those I6 that Toyota (and Chevy, Ford and Dodge) built stack up to most mid sized V8's. As long as you don't feel the need to race up hills (the FJ55 didn't "race" anywhere") your issue with the FJ60 is likely to be wheelbase. I would stay below 3500-4000lbs and probably no more than 21-22ft. Have you considered a vinatage globetrotter or maybe even a 60s Safari. Those trailers might serve you quite well.
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I have owned an FJ55 and for all the comments about a V8 having more torque, that is just a generalization that isn't valid. Those I6 that Toyota (and Chevy, Ford and Dodge) built stack up to most mid sized V8's. As long as you don't feel the need to race up hills (the FJ55 didn't "race" anywhere") your issue with the FJ60 is likely to be wheelbase. I would stay below 3500-4000lbs and probably no more than 21-22ft. Have you considered a vinatage globetrotter or maybe even a 60s Safari. Those trailers might serve you quite well.
Very true, a friend put a Chevy small block in his FJ55. (We both had the same year FJ.) When we went hill climbing I would always win. His would break traction because he needed to bring his RPM's up to a higher level.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:28 AM   #21
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Our '96 Landcruiser was our favorite vehicle, bar none. The seats were incomparable for travel for someone with back issues, re: husband Max. We tried pulling our 25' SOB in the mountains, but felt controlled by the trailer rather than the tv. We reluctantly let the LC go, but have missed it ever since. Sigh. Now our diesel truck pulls us easily, but the joy of travel is not the same with it as when we rode in the LC. ~G
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Ha, I knew you guys were out there.

I just couldn't help posting even if it was an old thread, people still read em and I just could never part with my LC.

I am doing EXTENSIVE research from every angle to ensure the safest situation for us as we will be traveling far and wide all beit not over many mountain passes, ugh 20 miles an hour, ur uh 15 miles an hour and my poor OLD truck. I have towed before about 19 feet of OTHER TRUCK (Jeep Cherokee, sold IT for an Accord and save $100 a month on gas and don't miss the jeep AT ALL). We will be planning accordingly with the triler as I'm not trying to kill my truck.

Looking for a 22 ft Argosy Minuet so far unless I find any of the lighter 60's models A/S that I dont have to completely rebirth!!

Let me know if anyone knows of any.

and thanks for the support
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:14 PM   #23
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I have owned a 1985 (248,000 miles), two 1994's (178,000 & 125,000 miles), a 2000 (78,000 miles) and now a 2008 LC. The 1985 had a cracked head at 185,000 miles that I repaired and the others had no mechanical problems to mention.)

The inline six is a big 300 cubic inch+ engine, lots of torque but not much horsepower for such a heavy vehicle. The fuel injected inline six in the 1994's provided more horsepower, but probably only enough for flat lander towing (no mountain grades) for 23 foot or shorter trailers. The suspension probably could handle it, but you would have to accept the lack in horsepower. The first of the newer styles (1990, I believe) was a DOG for power, so avoid that first model of body style change! I test drove it new at the dealership and passed until the 1994's were out with much better power. The 1991 was much improved as a second year production.

The 2000 LC had the 4.7L V8 and might have pulled our 23 foot Safari, but I felt it was underpowered for the combined weight of trailer and vehicle and did not attempt to make a trial run. The wife kept the 2000LC for local driving and I bought a 2006 Tundra 4x4 which had the power and torque to pull a 23 foot AS with much to spare.

We bit the bullet this year and bought a 2008 Tundra 5.7L and a 2008 Land Cruiser 5.7L, both with six speed automatics. The Tundra pulls the 23 foot AS easily in the mountains. The 2008 LC was intended for towing east of the Rockies, but I have decided to make the Tundra our workhorse. Both vehicles have power not experienced with the 2000 LC or 2006 Tundra! The 2008 LC probably would tow better than the Tundra, if I considered only the power of the vehicle... A Land Cruiser is a 200,000 mile vehicle. Those with experience with the FJ's as well, would call them "Land Crushers". There are few used LC's ever for sale and they sell quickly. I do not like paying the premium price, but I need something that will go any where, any time and keep on going.
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