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Old 11-29-2008, 12:42 AM   #43
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The days of heavy TV's is about over, except for a few.
Yes, the writing has been on the wall for some time now. Without a doubt we are seeing the down slide of the Jurassic era of TV's.

The good news is that the advanced technology, combined with smaller lighter vehicles seems to work, and in many cases be a "better mouse trap". For many, this would include better gas mileage, better handling, and a more comfortable ride overall.

Generally speaking, many believe the future for TV's looks promising.
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I had a magnum awd three point five that I bought new. It weighed forty two hundred and sucked gas like a drunken sailor guzzling beer. Thats hardly light. I sold it after a year or less of ownership, good riddance. I could not get better than twenty mpg even if driving easily all high way. It was a big car and a big dissapointment.

It was pretty stiffly sprung and the drive train was reputed to be very rugged though so it probably do well as a tow vehicle if the load limits were observed.

It was really good in snow though!

Did I mention with the huge heavy wheels that it rode like a log wagon?
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Old 11-29-2008, 05:01 PM   #45
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I had a magnum awd three point five that I bought new. It weighed forty two hundred and sucked gas like a drunken sailor guzzling beer. Thats hardly light. I sold it after a year or less of ownership, good riddance. I could not get better than twenty mpg even if driving easily all high way. It was a big car and a big dissapointment.

It was pretty stiffly sprung and the drive train was reputed to be very rugged though so it probably do well as a tow vehicle if the load limits were observed.

It was really good in snow though!

Did I mention with the huge heavy wheels that it rode like a log wagon?
We rented one and put over 1,000-miles on it in less than a week, a stripper model with the V-6 3.5L. I achieved as high as 27 mpg and averaged at 20 mpg overall, from Salt Lake to Boise, to Spokane and Seattle, on backroads
where possible. I found the gearing and shifts to be right on, visibility to be fine outside of the low windshield, and the ride to be just fine. The car was driven without effort. A good amount of engine time was in cities as we looked at properties (the point of the trip).

So far as I can tell, the Chrysler 300C, with "Heritage" package (has the Daytona R/T suspension) might be the best compromise of comfort and performance for a long-distance touring version of this car (albeit at a premium price).
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We rented one and put over 1,000-miles on it in less than a week, a stripper model with the V-6 3.5L. I achieved as high as 27 mpg and averaged at 20 mpg overall, from Salt Lake to Boise, to Spokane and Seattle, on backroads
where possible. I found the gearing and shifts to be right on, visibility to be fine outside of the low windshield, and the ride to be just fine. The car was driven without effort. A good amount of engine time was in cities as we looked at properties (the point of the trip).

So far as I can tell, the Chrysler 300C, with "Heritage" package (has the Daytona R/T suspension) might be the best compromise of comfort and performance for a long-distance touring version of this car (albeit at a premium price).
I also rented one for a western vacation, actually we rented a stripper 300 chrysler. It had a 2.7 motor. We got excellent mileage in that one, averaging 30 mpg driving the typical western speeds of 75 and more. Based on that I expected excellent mileage on my magnum, but the combination of the 3.5 and perhaps the AWD made for a car that got really poor mileage. I literally got better mileage in my dodge 2500 quad cab with the cummins, both in town and on the road.
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Old 11-30-2008, 08:50 AM   #47
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The Canadian Natural Resources site rates the 3.5, 4 wheel drive Magnum as getting 20MPG city and 31MPG hwy.

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...lts.cfm?attr=8


The 2.7 in the 2WD Magnum is rated for 25/37 MPG

The 3.5 in the 2WD Magnum is rated for 23/35 MPG

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...lts.cfm?attr=8



The Hemi V8 is in the Magnum is rated for 21/33 MPG (Note "better" than 3.5 AWD Magnum)

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...lts.cfm?attr=8

Note Imp Gals
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Whats the curb weight of a Magnum Wagon? I think Id buy one if it wasn't a Chrysler.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:34 PM   #49
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Whats the curb weight of a Magnum Wagon? I think Id buy one if it wasn't a Chrysler.
My awd wagon with the 3.5 was about 4200#.

The rwd would be around 3900 something.

Note the above post is giving mileage in imperial gallons which are a good bit larger than american gallons so the numbers are higher.
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And 1 Imperial gallon = 1.2 US gallon, so MPG will be what, 20% better unless you do the conversion?

Thankfully, a mile is a mile.
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Thanks I had no idea they were that heavy. I like the look of that ride.
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I think he said he gets 12mpg in one of his posts.
That would surely be Imperial gallons....about 10 mpg us.
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[QUOTE=Road Ruler;643352]The Canadian Natural Resources site rates the 3.5, 4 wheel drive Magnum as getting 20MPG city and 31MPG hwy.

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...lts.cfm?attr=8


The 2.7 in the 2WD Magnum is rated for 25/37 MPG

The 3.5 in the 2WD Magnum is rated for 23/35 MPG

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...lts.cfm?attr=8

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Hopefully this makes more sense for most who know when a gallon is a gallon and a mile is a mile.

I'm just not seeing any fuel savings and the abuse put on this car that's rated for 3,800 lbs of towing capacity ends up costing you a lot more in the long run.

I'm starting to smell a troll.
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