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Old 03-12-2015, 05:40 PM   #15
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This was the last Jeep TV I saw in Cave Creek, AZ a few years ago, and this was after the family got out of the Jeep.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:07 PM   #16
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I would advise you, again, to read this thread before you tow with a new Jeep:

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Old 03-12-2015, 08:08 PM   #17
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I tow my 1000 lb teardrop (without brakes) all over the place. Spent 2 weeks in the mountains of CO in 2012 and never had any issues at all. I never knew it was back there. Granted it's a much smaller trailer then the AS . This year I will spend 2 weeks in the mountains of WY with the same trailer. Once I get my 19' Silver Streak done I will pull it with this Jeep. I'll let you know how it does.

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Old 03-12-2015, 08:09 PM   #18
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This was the last Jeep TV I saw in Cave Creek, AZ a few years ago, and this was after the family got out of the Jeep.
That picture is funny (even though it's not)
Yeah, that is way bigger than my trailer.
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Old 03-12-2015, 08:10 PM   #19
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I tow my 1000 lb teardrop (without brakes) all over the place. Spent 2 weeks in the mountains of CO in 2012 and never had any issues at all. I never knew it was back there. Granted it's a much smaller trailer then the AS . This year I will spend 2 weeks in the mountains of WY with the same trailer. Once I get my 19' Silver Streak done I will pull it with this Jeep. I'll let you know how it does.

Love it! Please do keep me updated.
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Just don't be this guy I snapped a photo of:



We saw this trailer with wicked sway rolling down US 19 heading south. As we got closer I saw why it was swaying everywhere. A Lifted 2 door wrangler towing on the ball, no WD, no anti-sway. When he braked at the light his Jeep took a nose dive. As he started from a roll the whole front end of the jeep lifted up. Worst yet, I'm pretty sure he had unbelted kids in the back.

On top of it, and I posted this on another forum, we saw this guy a second time, with a larger trailer, doing the same crap. This time, getting on the highway.



JKUs (4 door Jeeps) are not available with 3.08 gears. 3.21 open, 3.73 limited slip, and 4.10 electronic locker are the choices.

2 DR is rated for 1000lbs with 3.21
2 DR is rated for 2000lbs with 3.73 or 4.10
4 DR is rated for 2000lbs with 3.21
4 DR is rated for 3500lbs with 3.73 or 4.10

I really wish this idiot could be removed from the road ways.
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Old 03-12-2015, 10:30 PM   #21
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Just don't be this guy I snapped a photo of:



We saw this trailer with wicked sway rolling down US 19 heading south. As we got closer I saw why it was swaying everywhere. A Lifted 2 door wrangler towing on the ball, no WD, no anti-sway. When he braked at the light his Jeep took a nose dive. As he started from a roll the whole front end of the jeep lifted up. Worst yet, I'm pretty sure he had unbelted kids in the back.

On top of it, and I posted this on another forum, we saw this guy a second time, with a larger trailer, doing the same crap. This time, getting on the highway.



I really wish this idiot could be removed from the road ways.
Not to worry He WILL remove himself and hopefully no one else from the highway !
It's just a matter of time .

What a complete IDIOT !

Where's the Highway Patrol when this IDIOT is on the road ?
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:01 PM   #22
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Speaking from experience, you do NOT want a Jeep with a Pentastar engine from 2012 or any recent year but the most recent models. There is a widespread problem with this engine regarding head failures due to the increased heat this engine suffers from in the Wrangler.

"Normal" operating temps are in the 230 degree range, and there is no exhaust manifold; the head is an all-in-one design and the valves fail. These Pentastar engines run EXTREMELY hot in an unloaded Jeep merely driving down the road; the transmissions run extremely hot and an external cooler is utilized from the factory just to control the tranny in normal operation. The extra heat from the engine is of course transferred from the hot engine to the transmission which is bolted right to it. These Jeeps are known to overheat on their own just from driving in the sand...towing a trailer up a mountain will surely lead to a severely hot engine and transmission.

This engine fails in other Chrysler products as well, but not to as high of an extent as they aren't run at such a high temperature in those vehicles (which just prolongs the failure, I'm sure after the warranty is up). Chrysler has been replacing thousands of heads (usually the left side) for years now. You do NOT want that headache. They MAY have it sorted out now, but people are STILL reporting problems with new Jeep Pentastar engine failures.

Chrysler has done a great job of keeping this pretty hush-hush. But, check out this 200 page thread with literally THOUSANDS of posts of people with this same problem:

Update on ticking Pentastar..new head... - Jeep Wrangler Forum

Consider this fair warning, but good luck...
Chrysler/Fiat has bet the company on the latest 3.5 pentastar.It's in everything that isn't 4 cylinder(except that crazy Italian Diesel) in the cherokee. I thought the reports were good so far. Did the Jeep get a special crappy version ?
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This was the last Jeep TV I saw in Cave Creek, AZ a few years ago, and this was after the family got out of the Jeep.
This can't be real.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:03 PM   #24
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Just don't be this guy I snapped a photo of:



We saw this trailer with wicked sway rolling down US 19 heading south. As we got closer I saw why it was swaying everywhere. A Lifted 2 door wrangler towing on the ball, no WD, no anti-sway. When he braked at the light his Jeep took a nose dive. As he started from a roll the whole front end of the jeep lifted up. Worst yet, I'm pretty sure he had unbelted kids in the back.

On top of it, and I posted this on another forum, we saw this guy a second time, with a larger trailer, doing the same crap. This time, getting on the highway.



JKUs (4 door Jeeps) are not available with 3.08 gears. 3.21 open, 3.73 limited slip, and 4.10 electronic locker are the choices.

2 DR is rated for 1000lbs with 3.21
2 DR is rated for 2000lbs with 3.73 or 4.10
4 DR is rated for 2000lbs with 3.21
4 DR is rated for 3500lbs with 3.73 or 4.10

I really wish this idiot could be removed from the road ways.
O M G !!!
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:07 PM   #25
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Hey Everyone,
I'm really loving all your info/advice and tips. I dug up some old posts from people who had the same question and I've reached out to a couple peeps attempting longer/heavier trailers than what I am trying to do.

Also, i found this thread about a successful Rubicon that was pulling a 25' AS *check out the photo of the red jeep 2nd in line*
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ams-55607.html
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Just an Update; since that thread in 2009 we have set up quite a few Wrangler Unlimiteds. The Rubicon is better out of the box than the other models but not dramatically so. We do sometimes improve tire sizes to compensate for the taller axle ratio's in some models but that is more with the boxier trailers they pull an Airstream quite well as is. We have never had a durability is,sue with one.

The 3.6 litre has a little less low end grunt than the 3.8 had but more horsepower when you wind it up.

Here is a closer view of our friends with the 25'. Of course proper hitch set up is critical.

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Just an Update; since that thread in 2009 we have set up quite a few Wrangler Unlimiteds. The Rubicon is better out of the box than the other models but not dramatically so. We do sometimes improve tire sizes to compensate for the taller axle ratio's in some models but that is more with the boxier trailers they pull an Airstream quite well as is. We have never had a durability is,sue with one.

The 3.6 litre has a little less low end grunt than the 3.8 had but more horsepower when you wind it up.

Here is a closer view of our friends with the 25'. Of course proper hitch set up is critical.

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