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Old 03-16-2015, 09:05 PM   #1
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Jeep Liberty 3.7L Towing 2015 Flying Cloud 20?

Can it be done? 2012 Jeep Liberty 3.7l 4x4 with added tow package and wiring harness/brake controller towing a 2015 AS Flying Cloud 20...

I've checked the specs (5,000lbs and 750tw) and it pushes up to the limits on paper, however I've read mixed reviews of real life scenarios. Most of them say it was fine, then some were saying I was insane (of course these are the guys who put $5k of upgrades into a vehicle worth $12k)...

Towed boats and other trailers all my driving life (13 years worth now)

Never worried about trailer weights/tongue weights because I always had a full sized vehicle with a big engine, long wheelbase and solid hitches (Suburbans, Silverados etc) and small enough things hitched to them.

Now that I've downsized to a 2012 Jeep Liberty with the 3.7l V6 and a shorter wheelbase, should I have to worry about my rig and my safety (not that I normally don't).

FWIW, I will be getting the WD Equalizer E2 hitch, and I don't plan on keeping my Jeep for more than another year and half, at which point I will upgrade to a 2015 model Grand Cherokee, with a higher tow rating/wheelbase.
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Old 03-16-2015, 09:54 PM   #2
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Yes, it can be done, but I predict you won't like it.
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Old 03-16-2015, 10:10 PM   #3
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Yes, it can be done, but I predict you won't like it.
Heh, Thanks Steve! I'll keep you posted. Hopefully you wont see me shutting down IH-35.

Looking forward to getting involved in the Airstream Community (both off and online). Should I join the Hill Country or Alamo WBCCI?
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Old 03-16-2015, 10:15 PM   #4
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We'd love to have you give us an opportunity to "recruit" you into the Alamo unit. Our next rally is in Rockport on April 30-May 3, and of course next week is the Region 9 rally in Montgomery, TX.

There is a group of us caravanning over there from Seguin next Monday.
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I'm towing a 16' Bambi with a 2006 Liberty diesel. The combo is great, however, couple of differences. My trailer is 3500 lbs and my tow rating is 5,000. The diesel has a ton of torq, so it is great in the mountains. As you get closer to the weight limits, the performance will change. And I don't know how the gas engine is for performance. My guess is that Steve is right. It can probably be done, but you might not like it.

On a positive note, the Grand Cherokee will be a great setup. Lot's of people are very happy with that tv.

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The Jeep Liberty s a very capable off-road vehicle and is a great tow vehicle for a 16' trailer. It is, however, short, narrow, and light comparatively speaking for a 20' trailer. You may be back in a Suburban or Silverado.
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Old 03-17-2015, 02:55 PM   #7
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towing with a Jeep Liberty

I towed a 19' Bambi 2005 gross weight 4500 lbs. with no real problems, except stopping short on a downgrade. I kept my cargo to a minimum and left plenty of braking distance. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I towed it with 2008 Jeep liberty rear wheel drive. I've since brought a 2010 Ford Expedition. It should be alright just keep your cargo to minimum and don't try crossing the Rockies. Also make sure you adjust your brake controller for maximum braking. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 25' flying cloud. Good luck. Dan Regan
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:48 PM   #8
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I towed a 16' Casita with a 3500# axle with my 2002 Liberty and at times it was hard to tell who was towing who! I doubt you'll have fun with a 20 AS worth $50K
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I towed a 19' Bambi 2005 gross weight 4500 lbs. with no real problems, except stopping short on a downgrade. I kept my cargo to a minimum and left plenty of braking distance. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I towed it with 2008 Jeep liberty rear wheel drive. I've since brought a 2010 Ford Expedition. It should be alright just keep your cargo to minimum and don't try crossing the Rockies. Also make sure you adjust your brake controller for maximum braking. I'm thinking of upgrading to a 25' flying cloud. Good luck. Dan Regan
Awesome! Thanks for the input Dan, I appreciate it. Pictures to come as this adventure unfolds!
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It should pull your rig just fine. Don't expect a miracle going over the big hills though. Low and Slow.
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Can it be done? 2012 Jeep Liberty 3.7l 4x4 with added tow package and wiring harness/brake controller towing a 2015 AS Flying Cloud 20...

I've checked the specs (5,000lbs and 750tw) and it pushes up to the limits on paper, however I've read mixed reviews of real life scenarios. Most of them say it was fine, then some were saying I was insane (of course these are the guys who put $5k of upgrades into a vehicle worth $12k)...

Towed boats and other trailers all my driving life (13 years worth now)

Never worried about trailer weights/tongue weights because I always had a full sized vehicle with a big engine, long wheelbase and solid hitches (Suburbans, Silverados etc) and small enough things hitched to them.

Now that I've downsized to a 2012 Jeep Liberty with the 3.7l V6 and a shorter wheelbase, should I have to worry about my rig and my safety (not that I normally don't).

FWIW, I will be getting the WD Equalizer E2 hitch, and I don't plan on keeping my Jeep for more than another year and half, at which point I will upgrade to a 2015 model Grand Cherokee, with a higher tow rating/wheelbase.


Oh boy. My immediate reaction is wait for the Grand Cherokee. In the interim be very cautious towing a 20' AS with the Jeep Liberty with the 3.7 V6. It may have the power to get you going but I would fear trying to get out of the way with urgency and slowing down/stopping when going down hills. Forget passing unless in a 25mph zone. Forget climbing hills save in the far right lane with the slower 12 wheelers.


I am admittedly a very conservative tower. I want both power immediately available and a TV 15% heavier than my trailer. Diesel engines are best for towing.




Different strokes for different folks right. Good luck in all cases. If you tow with the Liberty just be very, very cautious and don't allow yourself to get into difficult situations.


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