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Old 05-11-2015, 10:45 AM   #15
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Surprisingly in my area currently the cost of regular gas is more than diesel. Crazy market!
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Old 07-14-2015, 01:17 PM   #16
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2nd trip!!!

So last week we went on our second trip with the new AS an 1.5 hours from home to Highland Haven AS Park to the Blue Ridge. Beautiful place to spend some time if anyone in the area.

The FC 23FB was just big enough for the wife, 20 year old daughter and me, even on the one rainy night we had to cook inside.

Although I took the roads that are the least curve and step, the Jeep GC down shifted and stayed in 2nd more than I liked. Also on one down hill stop the AS gave me more push than I liked.

So, now we're going to start looking a trucks! The wife thinks I should get a 3/4 ton on the change that we decide to upsize the AS (27"?) in the next 4-5 years. I'm conflicted as this TV will replace my Jeep Wrangler as my everyday/hunting ride and I don't need a 3/4 ton for that. Although a properly outfitted 1/2 ton would be more that adequate for the 23FB I would not feel anymore comfortable using one to tow a 27" AS than I know do using our Jeep GC.

I've read hundreds of posts on this and other forums on opinions regarding "bigger is better" and diesel vs gas for towing. I've researched what 1/2 tons may work for now and in the future and like the Ram Hemi and Ford 3.5 Eco. For 3/4 ton I like the Ram Cummins.

Plan to go look at them over the next few months and go on one more trip with the setup we have before pulling the trigger.

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Old 07-14-2015, 03:54 PM   #17
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Smljeep,
Here is my take on it. If you are going to get a truck, get a real truck, like a Ram Cummins. It will last forever and do what ever you have to do with a truck. Don't fool around with a half ton, gas or diesel. The Ram will occupy the same space as any other truck. I have never owned a truck. But if I did, that would be the one. And you won't have to fool around with fancy hitches. Any wdh will do. And when you get tired of rolling and you want a fifth wheel so you can sit in one place, you are good to go. Glad I got that off my chest. Jim


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Old 07-15-2015, 07:45 AM   #18
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Took my JGC into the shop yesterday to get plugs changed and fuel system serviced. While there I took the opportunity to check out the GCD's they had in stock. Took one for a test drive. Very impressed but honestly noticeably less power on demand than my 5.7 Hemi. With starting prices of $50k trading is going to have to wait until I win the lottery or have an unknown rich uncle die.
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:52 AM   #19
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My diesel is slow. Ponderous what with the manual transmission and weighing 7,900-lbs, but with the trailer hitched doesn't seem to change that curve very much even at over 17k. Has to be a more substantial grade than an Interstate ramp for it to be noticeable enough to wind it all the way.

My assumption was that for the EcoD this was similar given changes in weight and total power.

Does it go "flat" in "pulling" as it revs?

Maybe I'm just too used to slow acceleration now, between this truck and Class 8. Too many years since having had a big block gasser set for towing.
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The hemi and the diesel are apples and oranges in comparison. I tested both and bought the diesel. I bought it to tow with, it accelerates fine, just not as quick as a V-8 Hemi. I average 24 -25 mpg. 20-22 towing.
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So last week we went on our second trip with the new AS an 1.5 hours from home to Highland Haven AS Park to the Blue Ridge. Beautiful place to spend some time if anyone in the area.

The FC 23FB was just big enough for the wife, 20 year old daughter and me, even on the one rainy night we had to cook inside.

Although I took the roads that are the least curve and step, the Jeep GC down shifted and stayed in 2nd more than I liked. Also on one down hill stop the AS gave me more push than I liked.

So, now we're going to start looking a trucks! The wife thinks I should get a 3/4 ton on the change that we decide to upsize the AS (27"?) in the next 4-5 years. I'm conflicted as this TV will replace my Jeep Wrangler as my everyday/hunting ride and I don't need a 3/4 ton for that. Although a properly outfitted 1/2 ton would be more that adequate for the 23FB I would not feel anymore comfortable using one to tow a 27" AS than I know do using our Jeep GC.

I've read hundreds of posts on this and other forums on opinions regarding "bigger is better" and diesel vs gas for towing. I've researched what 1/2 tons may work for now and in the future and like the Ram Hemi and Ford 3.5 Eco. For 3/4 ton I like the Ram Cummins.

Plan to go look at them over the next few months and go on one more trip with the setup we have before pulling the trigger.

SMLJeep
So, how often do you usually trade vehicles? If you generally trade vehicles at 3-5 years and aren't likely to move to a bigger Airstream for 4-5 years, buy a vehicle for what you have now because overkill is wasted if you're just going to buy a new truck in 5 years anyway. If you're more on the 10-year replacement model, you might want to think in terms of a bigger Airstream when you're looking at tow vehicles.
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