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Old 08-28-2013, 12:00 PM   #1
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It pays to check with Car Manufacture (Audi Q5)

I have been trying to determine if my new Audi SQ5 can tow an AS Sport 16 safely. Many opinions on subject. One person even said their Q5 transmission blew out towing 2200lbs with a vehicle rating of 4400lbs. I called Audi directly and the person I talked with researched the subject. He called back today and said it would be no problem IF I installed an Audi brand hitch. It turns out this hitch includes electronics than alter engine and transmission performance that prevents burnout of both. Also WD hitch not to be used for similar reason. Thus using third party hitches to save money is a big mistake. It pays to do your research!
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WD hitch

I chuckle at the european manufacturers ratings. They do not allow WD hitches on thier vehicles, which trailers in the US have greater tongue weight that in Europe so you are really limited by the tongue weight before trailer weight. In the US 10-15% tongue weight is common, not the 6% common in europe.

Should be good with a Sport 16 anyway..
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I chuckle at the european manufacturers ratings. They do not allow WD hitches on thier vehicles, which trailers in the US have greater tongue weight that in Europe so you are really limited by the tongue weight before trailer weight. In the US 10-15% tongue weight is common, not the 6% common in europe.

Should be good with a Sport 16 anyway..
Tongue weight is 440 or 10%
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I have been trying to determine if my new Audi SQ5 can tow an AS Sport 16 safely. Many opinions on subject. One person even said their Q5 transmission blew out towing 2200lbs with a vehicle rating of 4400lbs. I called Audi directly and the person I talked with researched the subject. He called back today and said it would be no problem IF I installed an Audi brand hitch. It turns out this hitch includes electronics than alter engine and transmission performance that prevents burnout of both. Also WD hitch not to be used for similar reason. Thus using third party hitches to save money is a big mistake. It pays to do your research!
Not to be the wiseacre in the crowd, but ask him to send you that in writing, including the extension of any warranty to include coverage while towing the trailer.

Remember, they are in the business of selling cars and dealer-supllied parts.

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This is a repeat post from another thread, so I'll repeat my response.

skinzy, Audi has no new technology here and the OEM hitch is just a common receiver. It is not part of the SQ5's electronic sway control, which has been around for some years.

The "third party hitch" referred to on this thread is a weight distribution hitch with integrated sway control, which Audi does not sell.

Although many people are able to successfully use (third party) w.d. hitches on unibody SUV's, many will also screw up installation, adjustment, and/or use, thereby bending or tearing the vehicle's receiver attachment. In other words, wreck the vehicle, lose the trailer, or both.

Manufacturer's won't risk it and who can blame them. Most buyer's use these vehicles for commuting smugly and occasionally pick up a new vacuum cleaner.

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I agree completely. A small error in installation or equipment can mean damage and or injury. Jim
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skinzy, Audi has no new technology here and the OEM hitch is just a common receiver. It is not part of the SQ5's electronic sway control, which has been around for some years.

The company did not say "new" technology but rather that their hitch comes with controller electronics that works with the cars stabilization and drive system. Source was Audi engineer. Makes sense to me. I also don't believe RV installers are expert on all vehicles past and present.

PS got my new vacuum cleaner today! What a comfy ride.
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Not to be the wiseacre in the crowd, but ask him to send you that in writing, including the extension of any warranty to include coverage while towing the trailer.

Remember, they are in the business of selling cars and dealer-supllied parts.

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Seems like the same can be said of RV dealers? In the business of selling their RVs and hitch add ons.
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Oh, I agree wholeheartedly.

And they won't put it in writing, either.


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I'm really blown away by the folks out there that want to stretch the spec'd limits of their vehicle's towing capability.

AND they will let a towing specialist retrofit their vehicle with herculean receiver retrofits that will allow their vehicle to tow well over their specs. That's not for me.

My last trailer was a 23 FC, and I towed it with a MB GL 450. And it towed well, including trips into the Rockies. It never missed a lick in terms of power to spare.

HOWEVER…I believe any one who drives the same vehicle for an extended period of time becomes intimately familiar with said vehicle's idiosyncrasies.

I personally detected a distinct change in my MB's tranny over a period of two years; particularly when the vehicle wasn't towing our trailer. And, it was a change for the worse.

I just don't believe Detroit's and Europe's SUV's and lighter weight trucks are designed (with regard to their transmission) to consistently tow the weight that most newer Airstreams have grown to.

Just my very humble opinion. ;-)
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I have been trying to determine if my new Audi SQ5 can tow an AS Sport 16 safely. Many opinions on subject. One person even said their Q5 transmission blew out towing 2200lbs with a vehicle rating of 4400lbs. I called Audi directly and the person I talked with researched the subject. He called back today and said it would be no problem IF I installed an Audi brand hitch. It turns out this hitch includes electronics than alter engine and transmission performance that prevents burnout of both. Also WD hitch not to be used for similar reason. Thus using third party hitches to save money is a big mistake. It pays to do your research!
Hi skinzy, I believe your dealer is partly correct in that your vehicle will have no problem towing your AS Sport 16 safely. I do not believe he is correct in recommending no weight distribution component to go along with the hitch system, although he is following the company line and cannot do otherwise. The hitch itself does not include an electrical component but the hitch package you buy from the dealer does. The electrical component is a part that can be purchased by itself and is used to marry a brake controller to Audi's electrical system so that it can do all the fancy stuff that it has to do inorder not to launch itself into outer space. The good folks on the form are just trying to share their considerable experience and help you have a great experience with your Airstream. Weight distribution is a good thing and will help your Audi maintain its awesome performance with the Airstream in tow. Jim
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I just don't believe Detroit's and Europe's SUV's and lighter weight trucks are designed (with regard to their transmission) to consistently tow the weight that most newer Airstreams have grown to.

Just my very humble opinion. ;-)
I'd have to agree. After getting ready to put a third transmission in a 2011 F-150 in about 50,000 miles, about 13,000 towing a 22 sport, even the current 1/2 tons didn't seem up to the task of towing.
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I'd have to agree. After getting ready to put a third transmission in a 2011 F-150 in about 50,000 miles, about 13,000 towing a 22 sport, even the current 1/2 tons didn't seem up to the task of towing.
Do you have the tow package and a useful rear axle ratio? (3.55 or 3.73)

My '07 F150 has 70000 miles with about 10k of towing a '75 Argosy24 since 2011, and it's still operating normally so far. Factory tow package, 5.4L V8, 3.55 diff, 2WD.
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I'd have to agree. After getting ready to put a third transmission in a 2011 F-150 in about 50,000 miles, about 13,000 towing a 22 sport, even the current 1/2 tons didn't seem up to the task of towing.
This is the kind of real world information that scares me. Were the failures a result of heat?
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