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Old 12-07-2014, 08:36 AM   #85
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If someone says this, don't common rules of civility require that it be follow up with a genuine offer to help? Surely during trips to the hardware with your long-bed Tacoma you're on the lookout for a Volvo in need of assistance?

A good'ol boy passing by noticed my irritation, stepped over and drawled, "A real man's just gotta own a pickup truck, y' know..."
No, that comes under the heading of "kicking a man when he's down".
What has to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen at Home Depot was the guy in the smart car loading 2x4's into it.
But that's another story for another time on another thread...
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:40 AM   #86
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>But I wonder why in BC, Montana, Idaho, and other parts West, we hardly ever see a >sedan towing a trailer.

Because Americans love trucks. Love em' Starting point for TV Selection is usually whats in the driveway.According to my television all Real Americans already own a truck. Trucks look GMC tough. Some trucks have huge engines which is important when you want to accelerate up the rocky mountians while doing 85MPH both ways. You can use engine breaking to stop in less than 300ft and blow smoke like a coal engine in you mess with the injectors in your RAM.

In a truck you sit higher on bigger tires and feel more important. Also you can drive further over rocky terrain and clear the rear differential until your tires explode. When you hit someone in a little Japanese compact your bumper sometimes ends up in their face.

Even the commercials are more manly. You can powerSTROKE, or duraMAX, haul a huge LOAD of weaponry for your hunting buddies in the CREW CAB, liftgate, COLD STAMPED FORD TOUGH STEEL and bring that elusive sofa that the damsel in distress needs moved in the ads. Or go to Walmart and load the bed with 50,000 twinkies before they're discontinued again. You can get them with a frame so the panels rattle and shake as you go down the road.

Trucks have tougher names too, F-You series, HD2500, RAM, Ridgeline, Tundra, GMC, Max, Sierra, Dodge, Ram, Shove

Granted they have a high center of gravity and some of them seem to have rear suspension taken from a model T, sometimes they don't stop and sometimes they rollover and don't get up. Hit or miss stability and the gas mileage is nothing to write to Grandma about.

But nobody lives forever right ?
Do the people that buy German TV's think they are one up or better than others?
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:12 AM   #87
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I've got a pickup truck so I must be a real man but when I want to haul something I use our utility trailer, often pulled by our Suzuki Samurai.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:51 AM   #88
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Wife totally hates the look, handling, and style of minivans and SUVs in general. She likes the look of trucks. I don't know why she considers them 'cute', but I'm not going to argue with her, since she paid for the last one...

Some of this is probably because our Tacoma hauls stuff, rides nice, and has plenty of room. The fact that it also tows our particular AS nicely is just gravy.


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Old 12-07-2014, 11:01 AM   #89
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Wife totally hates the look, handling, and style of minivans and SUVs in general. She likes the look of trucks. I don't know why she considers them 'cute', but I'm not going to argue with her, since she paid for the last one...
For sure...personal preference is a biggy and what makes ma ma happy makes everyone happy.

I recall a few years back the little old lady down the street bought a big F150. She liked it because when she missed the driveway and drove over the curb it didn't drag on the bottom of the truck.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:05 AM   #90
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Makes perfect sense to me!


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Not as vital as one thinks. We find mini vans much more versatile compared to a pick up. Better gas mileage, better ride, better at towing our Airstream, and better at hauling things from Home Depot (nothing gets wet when it rains).
When we had a landscape business the van worked great. Doing a home reno for the last 4 years, and towing the Airstream, wonderful.

Towing Airstream, taking loads to the dump, hauling drywall from HD, and a garden tractor...... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...5/IMG_5011.jpg

This is just wrong. Ram Eco-diesel has better mpg than any minivan (30+ in the highway), with air suspension ride as good or better than a minivan, with 420 ft-lb of torque tow much better than a minivan (specially in elevations where turbo makes a differences), is heavier and has a longer wheelbase than a minivan so has more stability, and with a cover on the bed nothing gets wet in rainy days. Looks better than a minivan too but this is personal preference. They make different tools for different jobs. Use the right tool, instead of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.


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Hey, like they say in the south, "run what ya brung."

Minivans are much better nowadays than they used to be, but if the boss don't like it, there won't be one in my driveway.

Besides, some day I may actually need the 4 wheel drive capability that came with this Tacoma. Was not my choice--we inherited it (sorta). Used 4 high fording a big puddle once. Kinda silly, but Toyota says to exercise it occasionally, so I do.


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Old 12-10-2014, 08:04 PM   #93
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I guess I could hook up my wife' Toyota venza to our 31' as, may be the mileage would be better than our ram's 6.7.....
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For sure...personal preference is a biggy and what makes ma ma happy makes everyone happy.

I recall a few years back the little old lady down the street bought a big F150. She liked it because when she missed the driveway and drove over the curb it didn't drag on the bottom of the truck.
That's why I've always loved driving a Jeep. Whenever I run up on a curb when parking, people just think I meant to do it and I'm showing off.
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This the same old VERY important topic.

There are just a few different concerns. I think safety and money might be the top two.

One of my thoughts is that this guy who doesn't even have a trailer yet, most likely has NO towing experience. I don't think a beginner is ready to tow with a lighter car, that a trailer could push around.

More experienced towers with a tricked out hitch might not have a problem.

It seems to me that the original poster was factoring just the dry weight of his trailer and not passengers and cargo in the car, or propane, water and cargo in the trailer. I wouldn't want one of these new guys to get hurt, or hurt someone
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My Mistake ... I suggested checking the 2014 Summer edition of Airstream magazine for a comparison between a lighter SUV and the Tahoe SUV for towing vehicles. It was actually the Fall 2014 edition. It was between a Chevrolet Cheyenne and a Chevrolet Tahoe. The Cheyenne is rated at 5,200 lbs. capacity, and "won" the competition. A very interesting article that helped us feel comfortable with our Toyota Highlander towing our 19-FC.
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Oh, well. If Wally could tow one with a bicycle....
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There are just a few different concerns. I think safety and money might be the top two.

One of my thoughts is that this guy who doesn't even have a trailer yet, most likely has NO towing experience. I don't think a beginner is ready to tow with a lighter car, that a trailer could push around.

More experienced towers with a tricked out hitch might not have a problem.

It seems to me that the original poster was factoring just the dry weight of his trailer and not passengers and cargo in the car, or propane, water and cargo in the trailer. I wouldn't want one of these new guys to get hurt, or hurt someone
Wouldn't it be cool if Airstream made a 60' 3 door trailer like the one in your avatar?
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