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Old 06-10-2009, 09:14 PM   #15
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yes i do have it already. manual says i have between 1290-1310 depending on my specific model which i havent figured out which exact one that is yet. and that was starred numbers indicating they had deducted the weights for the options i have. Tow package and moon roof. So im deducting my tongue weight from that? and the rest is for passengers and anything else if theres any weight room?
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:15 PM   #16
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my gcwr is 14000 min
my towing capacity is 8100
GCWR & tow capacity are levels that are very hard to reach in real life towing. OTOH it's easy to approach and exceed payload capacity. Looking at this requires addition and subtraction only.
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:29 PM   #17
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Toyota has an easy to follow document that describes all the numbers and what they mean:
http://a230.g.akamai.net/7/230/2320/...wing_guide.pdf
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:32 PM   #18
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The lowest payload in the 2007 models was for a 4.7 L. 4wd crew cab with the Limited trim was 1,350. If that's what you have, they have reduced the payload.

A 2008 27' FB SE had a tongue weight of 750, but in real life it's probably 800-850. If you use a WD hitch and it's set up right, you'll transfer about 550 lbs to the truck. If your payload is around 1,300 lbs, that leaves 750 lbs for passengers, dogs, stuff. Two contemporary Americans probably mean 350 lbs or more, down to 400 left. But if you want to keep within 85% of payload, subtract about 200, so you have 200 left for everything you can imagine. You could take out the rear seats and gain something, but if you have kids, dogs, mother-in-law, forget carrying anything else in the truck.

I doubt you have the 4.7 L Crew Cab because there are very few of those, especially with 4wd and tow package. I think you may be reading payload incorrectly, but I don't know what's current. If those numbers you have posted are right, Toyota has reduced payload, not increased it.

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Airstream, Inc :: Specifications Specifications lists tongue weight as 790#. Just about none of the 60# of propane will be back on the axles. Virtually none of the weight distribution gear will be back on the axles. The hitch bar and 10K rated 2 5/16" ball on my Reese weights 40 pounds all by itself.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:36 PM   #20
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yeah i have the 2009 5.7 crew max. 4 wheel drive. with tow package and moon roof. so i get a deduction for those options as noted in the book. I need to crawl around the truck to find the exact numbers to match the matrix in the book. Was being safer looking at the lower ratings in the cluster im fitting in.
was using the equalizer. read else where on the forums that was a horrible hitch. Was working for me, however the verical bars that back up the L bars are all bent in, and im sure i didnt over torque it. but after every tow they d bee real loose so id tighten more. Somethings wrong there.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:20 AM   #21
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I've got a 2009 Tundra Double cab and it tows my 2008 25 foot Safari just fine. I have a Prodigy and an equalizer hitch, and have experienced no problems at all with towing, climbing, or stopping. I have a Leer cap on the back which decreases my weight limit too, but I'm still well within the Toyota guidelines and am very content with my set up and think you will be too.
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Old 06-11-2009, 08:49 AM   #22
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Read this thread about the Equalizer. Bending plates are an issue for some.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464...ort-34484.html

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Old 06-11-2009, 01:40 PM   #23
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Our 2007 pulls our 25' International just fine. Probably 5 round trips through the Rockies and 30,000+ tow miles. All without a single issue. I wouldn't buy anything else.
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We have a 2009 double cab TRD and a 22 ft Safari and have just taken taken a jaunt up to Seattle for 5 days. The tow was very easy and we had no problem at all with the trailer. Power is certainly not a problem with the 5.7 ltr engine. We have just purchased a Hensley hitch and will be installing that soon, just to make sure handling in windy conditions is not a problem. I haven't looked into a larger Airstream at this time but think that we could easily move up 5 or 6 feet without change in TV's. Our previous TV was a 2003 4Runner with a 5000lb capacity and it was not nearly as stable as the Tundra, particularly in windy conditions. The 2009 Tundra TRD double cab will tow. No doubt about it. The gas mileage is a separate issue. jc
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My wife and I tow our 2006 Safari with a 2008 Tundra Crewmax and have absolutely no problems. The longest trip we have made thus far is from Knoxville, TN to a state park south of Birmingham, AL. Everything worked perfectly! Next week we are leaving for the International in Madison so we'll learn more on this upcoming tripl
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My neighbor has a rotor warping problem, the dealer has done a brakejob, already and it it back. He has 10000 miles on it. It an 08, the mechanic says he is seeing alot of this, I wont repeat my post requating advice.
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Mustang started a thread on brake issues the other day: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...ues-53116.html

I have had no brake problems with our 2007 and we now have more 24,000 miles. I looked on Tundra Solutions to see if there were a lot of posts about brake problems and found very little about it.

As a general statement, and I am not pointing at anyone, it seems that because Toyotas have such a good reputation for reliability there's a few American truck fans that are eager to slam Tundras at any instance. Yet when you compare them, the Toyotas come out ahead over the years in reliability. There will always be a some people who had problems with Toyotas and some people who have had no problems with American trucks. These testimonials are interesting, but not conclusive. We have had hardly any problems with six Toyotas—all of which were either pickups or truck based SUV's. That's interesting, but maybe we're lucky. But overall, Toyotas rate very highly. Toyota gained market share over the last 20 years based not on looks, sexiness or price, but on reliability.

It's also true that Toyota has been slipping in relative ratings the last few years and even Hyundai rates ahead of them in the latest JD Power ratings. Hyundai some years ago adopted the Toyota QC system and seems to be doing a little better than Toyota at it. But all manufacturers are doing better and the ratings don't mean a significant difference in Toyota, but do show enough improvement among other brands (Cadillac included) to be just ahead of Toyota. The differences between all the top manufacturers is so small as to be unimportant.

If Toyota sticks it to us in the future, I'll be the first to complain. I have complained about 2 things—lousy gas mileage and how difficult it is to change the oil filter. Massive torque means lots of gas, but I think they could have done better. They have a filter and not a cartridge (containing the filter). They claim this is for environmental reasons. It is difficult to get to the filter, difficult to remove it (special tool required which I refuse to buy), difficult to drain it—oil tends to go everywhere. I was told the '08's are even worse for access to the filter. Every time I change the filter I decide to buy a different brand next time, but later I come to my senses. We don't want a vehicle that breaks down on a trip. Airstreams have enough problems to fix when traveling—who needs more that can go wrong?

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