Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-03-2015, 09:57 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
Foiled Again's Avatar
 
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach , Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,882
I'm going to jump!

I love my nieces and nephews and their offspring and my sister - and my brother BUT I didn't work all my life to leave them with a big inheritance. I have a perfectly good 2013 Ford F150 Ecoboost. I like it. But the attachment is pretty anemic.

I must have been out of my mind for not getting remote start and heated seats - I got an emergency call at 3:30 2 nights ago and had to go into work, and I go down the road teeth chattering saying - one more traffic light and I'll have some heat, just one more dear lord. Of course 4 traffic lights later I was sweating like a horse because I'd turned everything to high to get max heat fast.

I had to buy a new tow vehicle in a hurry after my wreck - now I'm going to plan and scheme and take my time and buy the luxury vehicle of my choice, after listening to a lot of advice from my friends here!

Since trading a truck at 2 years will be rather expensive, whatever I buy is going to be something I'll have to live with for at least 5 years. SO, give me the pro's and cons to help me finalize my decision.

I'm getting a 3/4 ton vehicle - because the #1 thing I miss with the Ecoboost is the pure raw torque of my old diesel Silverado. Remembering that I'm a fulltimer - what are the arguments for going all the way to a 1 ton? I am going to carry more "stuff" than the average weekender - does the payload increase and fuel usage for the bigger one? I'm going "loaded" with luxury stuff, and I know that reduces the payload a bit.

(I have admired both a "DuraBurb" and a Streamliner with utility bed - but the Streamliner is too pricy - I won't live long enough to get any ROI, and the DuraBurb isn't for someone who isn't a complete motorhead.)

Leading contender at this moment is a 3/4 ton GMC with the following must haves:
  • towing package, mirrors, brake controller, etc.
  • towing mirrors must fold back electrically
  • remote start
  • heated seats
  • heated steering wheel
  • leather interior?
  • backup camera
  • TPMS
  • electric windows, seats, etc. (now almost standard equipment)
  • 18" wheels I think.
  • bed slide
  • matching cap

Diesel or gas - price of fuel is a non issue really. What's the price difference in a 3/4 and 1 ton? What am I losing by not going diesel? I really liked the Silverado's instrument placement a lot better than the Ford's.

Any thoughts on a 2015 as opposed to a 2014 or 2013?

OK pile on and help me blow a wad of money.


Thanks, Paula
__________________

__________________
Today is a gift, that's why they call it the present.
Foiled Again is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2015, 10:18 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Gsmblue's Avatar
 
2015 25' Flying Cloud
Bend , Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 553
Paying close attention to this thread. Looking at changing out our 2nd vehicle for TV that will be pretty much only used with the Airstream.

I am looking long and hard at F150, super crew, 6.5ft bed etc.

Oh, and the LR3 I am looking at trading does NOT have heated seats.... hence it is on death watch!
__________________

__________________
http://britishairstream.blogspot.com
Mad Astrophysicist turned sales guy that works to fund his dirty snowbaording habbit, mwah-ha-ha . . .
Gsmblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2015, 10:28 PM   #3
Rivet Slave
 
Rocinante's Avatar

 
2014 27' FB International
Western WA , Washington
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 3,431
Blog Entries: 49
The seats should be both heated and ventilated. BTW, the heated steering wheel is wonderful on a cold day.

If you go for the 1-ton, you may want to add an Air Safe to your hitch to give your TT a smoother ride.

I won't pretend to know anything about whether your TV wheels should be 18" or 20", but I'm sure you'll get plenty of opinions on that.
__________________
Rocinante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2015, 10:31 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
dkottum's Avatar
 
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake , Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,716
If I had only one vehicle to tow our FC 25 and drive daily it wouldn't be a truck, it would be a MB GL 350 Bluetec or Audi Q7 TDI. But we've learned to manage payload while on the road 7 months a year.
__________________
Doug and Cheryl
2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles

The Truth is More Important Than the Facts
dkottum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2015, 10:40 PM   #5
3 Rivet Member
 
timhortons's Avatar
 
2015 16' Sport
Oakville , Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 234
Images: 29
Audi Q7 TDI looks sharp. Get one 3YO coming off lease, half price and engine already broken in for you.

Officially it's Tow rating is 6600lbs, vs the 7700 on the Toureg and Cayenne, but axle and engine it's the same vehicle.
__________________
timhortons is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2015, 10:43 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
TinShack's Avatar

 
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise , California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,438
Images: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again View Post

Diesel or gas - price of fuel is a non issue really. What's the price difference in a 3/4 and 1 ton? What am I losing by not going diesel? I really liked the Silverado's instrument placement a lot better than the Ford's.

Any thoughts on a 2015 as opposed to a 2014 or 2013?

OK pile on and help me blow a wad of money.


Thanks, Paula
The GM interior on the 2500 (Sierra and Silverado) was redesigned in mid 2014. The new design is light years nicer than the older one. There is very little price difference between a GMC 2500/3500. You should go online to the GMC, Chevy and Ford website and do a build to get a good idea of price difference.
__________________
Steve
"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
TinShack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2015, 10:53 PM   #7
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar
 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,928
Images: 2
I have the 20" wheels.. hard to find and very limited 'fitment' for them and the 2400. Rear wheels/wheel wells ok.. Front, Drivers side, Wheel well now has a hole rubbed in it from turning 'left'. Makes loud crunchy sounds as I turn 1/3 to full left. Nice in a parking lot, gets lots of attention... not really something I hoped for.

On the 2012, the 'tow' mirrors do not electrically fold.. If I recall correctly.. perhaps new ones do.

The heated features of mirrors and other interior parts is really nice. When doing a remote start, when temp is correct, the seats 'automatically' begin heating...

rear camera is a plus.. I added my own...

I have always had 'gas' motors.. except in 'working' items, tractors, tug-boats, etc. This 'Duramax' is my first 'passenger' truck with diesel.

It just works.. well. The Allison tranny.. wow.. Also, I have 4x4.. use it once a week for strong 'pulls'. This has been useful on at least 1/4 of our 'camping trips'...towing the 34'.. When not in 4x4 mode, it works great....

Fuel mileage over life of truck... 14mpg. I ended up using truck for a lot of 'short' runs. This is detrimental to the diesel.. it needs to 'run'... to stretch it's legs... on a recent 'solo' trip of 800 miles it averaged 18 and better at 75MPH average..as that was the speed limit. When under tow.. we don't exceed 65MPH and hit 14MPG and lower if pulling serious hills.

The TPMS works great. Only problem is when 'rotating' tires, they need to be very careful to reset.

I hear the 2014's have great deals on them... depending upon how long they have been 'in stock'...

Get the factory bed spray on bed liner..
Get electric sliding rear glass...
Get Weathertech floor mats..
Get 'leather' interior
Get 'Ranch Hand' or 'Pioneer' front and rear bumper
Get Heavy duty Tow package
Get the 'Crew Cab'
Get the Allison tranny.. maybe not the 4x4... but I 'love' mine...
Get the short/medium bed... not the long bed (helps with parking)
you should get the "extended diesel warranty"... with the Dmax.. ask....

The rear seats on ours fold up.. you can then 'store' lots inside...

Yes, the Dmax costs more.. diesel is more $$, you won't get 'specials' for oil-changes as the 'diesel' is always excluded.

If you want pics, I can send. I am at 3 years ownership... and loving it.. mostly. Only a couple 'issues'... and the dealer appears to be very interested in resolving...
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 12:19 AM   #8
Rivet Master
 
mefly2's Avatar
 
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Western , ** Big Sky Country ** Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,283
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again View Post
I love my nieces and nephews and their offspring and my sister - and my brother BUT I didn't work all my life to leave them with a big inheritance. I have a perfectly good 2013 Ford F150 Ecoboost. I like it. But the attachment is pretty anemic.

I must have been out of my mind for not getting remote start and heated seats - I got an emergency call at 3:30 2 nights ago and had to go into work, and I go down the road teeth chattering saying - one more traffic light and I'll have some heat, just one more dear lord. Of course 4 traffic lights later I was sweating like a horse because I'd turned everything to high to get max heat fast.

I had to buy a new tow vehicle in a hurry after my wreck - now I'm going to plan and scheme and take my time and buy the luxury vehicle of my choice, after listening to a lot of advice from my friends here!

Since trading a truck at 2 years will be rather expensive, whatever I buy is going to be something I'll have to live with for at least 5 years. SO, give me the pro's and cons to help me finalize my decision.

I'm getting a 3/4 ton vehicle - because the #1 thing I miss with the Ecoboost is the pure raw torque of my old diesel Silverado. Remembering that I'm a fulltimer - what are the arguments for going all the way to a 1 ton? I am going to carry more "stuff" than the average weekender - does the payload increase and fuel usage for the bigger one? I'm going "loaded" with luxury stuff, and I know that reduces the payload a bit.

(I have admired both a "DuraBurb" and a Streamliner with utility bed - but the Streamliner is too pricy - I won't live long enough to get any ROI, and the DuraBurb isn't for someone who isn't a complete motorhead.)

Leading contender at this moment is a 3/4 ton GMC with the following must haves:
  • towing package, mirrors, brake controller, etc.
  • towing mirrors must fold back electrically
  • remote start
  • heated seats
  • heated steering wheel
  • leather interior?
  • backup camera
  • TPMS
  • electric windows, seats, etc. (now almost standard equipment)
  • 18" wheels I think.
  • bed slide
  • matching cap

Diesel or gas - price of fuel is a non issue really. What's the price difference in a 3/4 and 1 ton? What am I losing by not going diesel? I really liked the Silverado's instrument placement a lot better than the Ford's.

Any thoughts on a 2015 as opposed to a 2014 or 2013?

OK pile on and help me blow a wad of money.


Thanks, Paula
Sounds like you have it figured out. We prefer the torque of the diesel, but the gas would get the job done at a much lower initial cost and maintenance. For some reason ours was not fitted with the heated wheel - but we got all else. Our Bedslide is now on the third or fourth truck! The 3/4 T is plenty stiff and we were told that the only difference for the 1 T was another helper spring ... YMMV.

We opted for the standard size wheel/ tire combo for a better selection of tires and not the extra cost ... the "Z" off road pkg includes better tires for traction as well as other goodies such as protection plates.
__________________
mefly2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 12:20 AM   #9
Rivet Master
 
dbj216's Avatar

 
1986 34' Limited
1966 24' Tradewind
Conifer , Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,119
I did what everyone says not to do. I splurged on a new diesel one ton to travel with during my retirement. i marvel at all the technology in turbo diesel engines. I think I counted 11 radiators and over 60 sensors to cool and control the thing. It is very complex. But so far, no problems. Maybe it's my last new vehicle? It should outlast me! It is considerably more expensive to own and operate compared to a gas one ton pick up.

Yep, I can accelerate faster and climb long grades faster with the diesel torque than I could with my gas one ton van. But 98% of the time I'm at 62 mph or less on level roads and can't tell any difference. My diesel gets 13mpg towing, and my gas van got 10. I'll never pay for the diesel with lower total fuel costs.

But... I agree with dkottum on considering a diesel SUV that can tow 7000 pounds. You can get the luxuries you want and have a much nicer driving vehicle. I enjoy my one ton, but it's a work truck and a beast to handle in a tight parking lot. And talk about slow to warm up on a winter day! A diesel doesn't like cold weather so much. It takes 20 minutes of driving to finally get warm. If you have a new 30' Classic in mind, then the heavy duty pick up is appropriate. If you haul a 1500 pounds of gear when you travel, then the heavy duty pick up is appropriate.

I believe most manufacturers make one ton pick ups from 3/4 ton pick ups by adding an extra leaf or two to the rear spring pack. And they are "overload" springs at that, meaning they don't come in to play until you have a bunch of weight in the bed. My truck was $800 more expensive for the one ton option. For me, it was a no brainer to check the one ton box.

Heck, I thought your F150 ecoboost would be very good tow vehicle. That's probably what I should have got. As always, no charge for my advice

David
__________________
dbj216 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 12:33 AM   #10
Rivet Master
 
Foiled Again's Avatar
 
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach , Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,882
Why the Ranch Hand or Pioneer bumpers?
Why the bed liner if also adding a slide?

The curious want to know
__________________
Today is a gift, that's why they call it the present.
Foiled Again is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 12:48 AM   #11
cwf
Rivet Master
 
cwf's Avatar
 
1999 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Hillsboro , Texas
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,928
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foiled Again View Post
Why the Ranch Hand or Pioneer bumpers?
Why the bed liner if also adding a slide?

The curious want to know
Front Bumpers help strain out road debris like rocks, bugs, Bambi.
Rear bumper more durable for stepping on and in/out and for rear collisions.
"Bright bumpers" are cosmetic and easily bent. Cost to replace exceeds new ranch hand.
Can mount more lights for front or side viewing easier.

BeDliner protects from rust better than paint. Will not limit slide. Quiets bed noise from road. Bed Can be used for other things should need arise.
__________________
Peace and Blessings..
Channing
WBCCI# 30676
cwf is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 03:58 AM   #12
3 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Akron , Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 120
What do you mean "You're not leaving me a bundle of cash"????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O

I vote for a gasser Burb. It has all that space in the back that's more accessable for us short people than climbing up into a truck and it's a bit more secure for "stuff".

And you can just give your F-150 to me...I'll take good care of her for you.

For those who haven't figured it out already, I'm Paula's sister.

Love you to Evil Sis!
__________________
prudencepb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 04:41 AM   #13
Rivet Master
 
richinny's Avatar
 
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY , / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
paula, have you considered adding some options to the f150 such as remote start, and elec. folding mirrors? seems like a lot of $$$$ for one cold night ;-)
__________________
Ricky
2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
give life. kidney & pancreas transplant 9/9/06
Ingrid-my unofficial '"World's Oldest Streamer" 1909-2008 R.I.P.
richinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-04-2015, 05:41 AM   #14
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,189
I don"t care for heated seats, but our new car does have remote start. I didn"t think I would like that either, but it"s growing on me.
You asked what the difference between 3/4 ton and 1 ton was, and the only difference, at least on Fords, is the height of the spring blocks. The F350 rides about an inch higher, and has a larger CCC and tow capacity.
__________________

__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ready to make the jump- 2006 Classic StanandLynn 2006 - 2010 Classic (all lengths) 7 11-22-2006 07:03 PM
Hypothetical ??? Jump start TV from AS... crazylev Electrical - Systems, Generators, Batteries & Solar 5 02-27-2006 11:20 PM
See the Trailor Jump..... Jim Jarzabek Off Topic Forum 9 01-29-2006 03:59 PM
MSRP Jump? donreitz Our Community 16 03-31-2004 05:14 PM
Portable Jump Starter joshua32064 Batteries, Univolts, Converters & Inverters 6 10-12-2003 01:13 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.