If you're the type that wants to keep truck'in

[Isuzusweet]

Check out the fifth longest kept vehicle in the USA.

Toyota tough reputation isn't fake news.

https://www.autoblog.com/photos/owne...#slide-7508065

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

[Hans627]

Originally Posted by Isuzusweet

Check out the fifth longest kept vehicle in the USA.

Toyota tough reputation isn't fake news.

https://www.autoblog.com/photos/owne...#slide-7508065

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

It definitely is not fake news. Toyota, and most of it's Japanese competitors, make some of the best (based on reliability) vehicles ever made.

Our company was a supplier to Toyota and I loved the way they approached problems. While Ford, GM and Chrysler, and others, were most interested in fixing the blame, Toyota was truly interested in fixing the problem. I really enjoyed working with them.

It is my experience that because they are so focused on reliability they are often late to the party with newer technologies.

I'm not sure why they don't put more effort into trying to capture more of the pickup truck market. Perhaps reliability is more important than sales!

[OTRA15]

Wish they made a full-sized van!

[Isuzusweet]

Originally Posted by Hans627

Perhaps reliability is more important than sales!

BINGO!

Not that problems haven't afficted Toyota trucks, (rusty frames, head gaskets on V-6's), but if a problem is large enough to warrant attention, Toyota anti's up and pays to get it fixed; instead of the big three's, sweep it under the rug, (especially FORD).

I still liked the size of the original Tundra though; the new one is too big IMHO.

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

[Isuzusweet]

Originally Posted by OTRA15

Wish they made a full-sized van!

Who makes a full size V8 van anymore? Nissan is the last I guess.

Ford Transit doesn't have the power, RAM doesn't, GM is out, or getting out of the full size van market........

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

[rmkrum]

Our Toyota fleet is two pickups, a 2002 Tacoma for hauling “stuff” and a 2012 Tacoma for hauling the Airstream. Wife drives a 2016 Prius as commute vehicle, and I have a 2012 Prius as long range commute vehicle. 2005 Camry is still used by daughter. I have no problem being seen in any of them. Routine maintenance is all it takes to get stone cold reliability out of all of them. The 2016 has the least mileage on it. The others have between 40,000 and 175,000 on them and still running strong.

[Zybane]

Originally Posted by Isuzusweet

Check out the fifth longest kept vehicle in the USA.

Toyota tough reputation isn't fake news.

https://www.autoblog.com/photos/owne...#slide-7508065

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

Longest kept vehicle is really not a meaningful metric. Most Toyota purchasers are looking for no-frills basic transportation. That same demographic isn't going to upgrade very often to the next best thing.

[OTRA15]

Originally Posted by Isuzusweet

. . .
Ford Transit doesn't have the power . . .
. . .

Our 2017 Transit 350 works for the FC20, but nowhere near the capacity of our old 1995 E-350 Club Wagon, as you recognize.

[AldeanFan]

My 2005 Tundra is in what we refer to as the “permanent collection” along with the mustang my wife and I took on our first date and my dad’s mustang that has been around since 1983. Never will be sold.

The tundra has bee and continues to be an amazing vehicle. Should turn over 150,000km this year, likely while pulling the Safari.
1 battery,
1 muffler,
1 O2 sensor,
Brakes once
One brake line

I’d hook up today and tow till I run out of road with no hesitation.

[Isuzusweet]

Originally Posted by Zybane

Longest kept vehicle is really not a meaningful metric. Most Toyota purchasers are looking for no-frills basic transportation. That same demographic isn't going to upgrade very often to the next best thing.

So the Platinum trim 2018 Toyota Tundra I saw last week has roll down windows and no A/C?

The 2019 Toyota Avalon Limited we test drove a few weeks ago, (which we plan to keep for a very long time), had about every option we could think of; except rain sensing wipers. So your statement doesn't hold water with me about wanting a basic vehicle.

I'm buying a fully loaded Toyota because the chances of those options still working after 15 years is pretty good; at least better than the big three.

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

[Smartstream]

Interesting discussion. I may not be the beast example and I'm not really a Ford fan but I do have 4 of them. The newest is 1938 and the oldest is 1910. I also have an old Dodge Cummins that the odometer quit a few years ago at 235,000 miles.

I do have 2 old Airstream motorhomes so I guess you can say I tend to hang on to my vehicles for awhile.

[AldeanFan]

Originally Posted by Countryboy59

if they were that good they would sell more. Unless we’re all stupid.

I disagree,
If people bought cars with their heads instead of their hearts then we would all drive a Toyota Corolla.

Buyers are influenced by advertising, price, brand loyalty and many other things.

Where I live most people drive General Motors vehicle, not because they are he best, but because either they ora family member works in the GM plant.

People also buy new airstreams despite the known quality problems.

That’s not to say that buyers are stupid, just that there are many factors that influence a purchase decision other than product quality.

[SnooMc]

We've got a 2004 Toyota 4 Runner that I'm going to hate to part with when we go full-time. It's never given us any problems at all.
My mother finally parted ways with her '95 Toyota Camry...6000 miles short of 300k and still going strong. She bought a RAV-4 to replace it.
Dodge has been good to us too...but we're thinking a Nissan NV3500 for the next tv...

[Zybane]

Originally Posted by Isuzusweet

So the Platinum trim 2018 Toyota Tundra I saw last week has roll down windows and no A/C?

The 2019 Toyota Avalon Limited we test drove a few weeks ago, (which we plan to keep for a very long time), had about every option we could think of; except rain sensing wipers. So your statement doesn't hold water with me about wanting a basic vehicle.

I'm buying a fully loaded Toyota because the chances of those options still working after 15 years is pretty good; at least better than the big three.

Cheers
Sidekick Tony

Doesn’t matter that they now sell a few higher end trucks. The vast majority of
Toyota pickups down through the years are just that; basic transportation with cloth seats and plenty with manual roll windows.

[rmkrum]

Hm. High end stereo, power windows, automatic transmission, push button 4WD. Tinted windows, carpet, comfy seats. Crew cab, Yeah, it’s just transportation. Try telling DW that. She bought it. The next one will be a “Cowboy Cadillac” Tundra with all the bells and whistles—like her well-loaded Prius 5, with lots of cool features.

You could claim my stick-shift 4 cylinder 2002 Tacoma is basic transportation, maybe. But it’s a stripper model.

[ROBERTSUNRUS]

Hi, an article writer for Motor Trend said that a "Prius looks like an angry insect." I have to agree with him.

[majorairhead]

Toyota is undeniably a reliable vehicle. What's the payload on those Tundra's?

[KK4YZ]

Originally Posted by majorairhead

Toyota is undeniably a reliable vehicle. What's the payload on those Tundra's?

It’s a 1/2 ton. Payload depends on truck configuration. Mine (Crew Cab 4x4) has a dry weight of 5700 lbs and GVWR of 7200.

[KK4YZ]

Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS

Hi, an article writer for Motor Trend said that a "Prius looks like an angry insect." I have to agree with him.

I have to agree with that. Never liked the looks of the Prius...and they made it worse in recent model years. Still an ok car though.

My daily driver is a Camry XLE Hybrid. Better looks, more power and still great mileage. 115k miles and still runs perfect. Never one issue with it yet.

[ROBERT CROSS]

Don't GAD, not in the market and you all can drive what you choose.👍
Sweet Streams

Bob
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