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Old 05-29-2015, 06:00 PM   #15
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Bottom line is the rated towing capacity of the vehicle!
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:17 PM   #16
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have you check out the Ike Gauntlet tow test from Fast Lane Truck.

Ike Gauntlet: 2013 Ford F-150 Ecoboost 4x4 - Extreme Towing Test - Truck News, Views and Real World Reviews

give it a look see, it very interesting and worth a look, plus the scenery is amazing.

Ike Tunnel aka Eisenhower Tunnel is some 60ish miles out of Denver on I-70 going west. The elevation is 11,200 ft. The tunnel allows the road to be below the Loveland Ski area..
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Old 05-29-2015, 06:33 PM   #17
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I have an F150 - is a 27 too much?

I honestly feel overwhelmed by this topic - technically challenged

I just started adding up weights of passengers, dog, bikes (2 adult size, two kid size), chairs, 20lb propane tank - weber babyq grill - and for boondocking generator and extra gas.

As I looked at all the figures including projected tongue weight it seemed I needed more payload buy a substantive margin.

I looked up for website (ford) payload calculator - they did not include any weight of any passenger - only the full tank of gas btw although I would hope the sticker and manual will stipulate for more certainty.

The whole business of this is confusing in my opinion and as I glean what is said online I am often left confused about what is what

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Old 05-29-2015, 06:54 PM   #18
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I pull a 19' with a 2500 Burban, my total combined max pull is 16k with Burban. The sticky wicket becomes my pop up shop and two tulles on top I haul around 22k miles a season. I take out middle and third row seats buying weight, and travel mostly alone( I am over 150#). I use a Reese WD on link 5 to even her up. But when empty and on pleasure trips I use only sway control. Total weight 11k when loaded, water, fuel, and my pop up shop.
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Old 05-29-2015, 07:59 PM   #19
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I have a Classic Limited 27. When I run, the trailer weight fully loaded with water and all the do-dads that my wife can fit into it is between 8000 and 9000 lbs. I pull this with a 2010 Ford F150 and it is just fine on the eastern seaboard. I would be concerned if I was out west. My Ford is not an off the lot model and has several options that give the Ford the best possible chance of success. The 5.4L V-8 with the 3.73 rear end and the heavy duty tow package including the transmission cooler and oil cooler. 18" wheels are another plus. At 65 mph the engine is turning about 2100 Rpm on a flat road. However, if I have a 3% grade my RPM jumps to close to 3000 RPM a 5% grade and I'm pushing 4000 rpm.

Now for the comparison: The 3.5L eco-boost is rated at very near the same horsepower and torque as the 5.4L but here is the kicker, the RPM at 65mph on a flat road will be near 2600 rpm and with the 3% grade and 5% grade the RPMS will be kissing 5000 RPM. I'm sorry, but even though the engine may do the job I am not convinced that it will last for 100,000 miles and I don't think that it would ever reach 200,000 without major engine repairs. I consider my F150 with the 5.4L is certainly marginal for this duty and I have considered the 3.5L but just can't feel comfortable with the very high RPM's that the engine would be seeing for long periods of time. It looks like the F250 will have to be the replacement for me.

I am looking at the Ram 1500 with the 3.0L Italian diesel this is a snappy machine with the 8 speed transmission. But even this diesel is just too marginal for my trailer. Would be very interested in what you end up with and how it works for you.

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Old 05-29-2015, 08:41 PM   #20
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F150

We pull a 2014 30' International with our 2012 F150 Ecoboost and have no problems. Beautiful ride.
However it is very important to get the hitch set up properly for your particular tow vehicle, whichever one you choose. I'd advise to go to an expert rather than work it out yourself. After all this is the critical connection between you and your new baby! And you'll spend nearly as much time driving as sleeping so you want it to be a comfortable experience!
Have fun!
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Old 05-31-2015, 01:37 AM   #21
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I have a Chevy Silverado 1500, and three years ago I rolled a 27' AS (won't go into specifics, 6% downgrade on a curve). I now pull a 25' AS.

There is a tendency to "load up" whatever you are pulling so with water and a "housefull" of stuff it is pretty heavy. I personally would be quite cautious pulling a 27'. I wouldn't let the wife pull the 27' because it was a handful handling. The 25' pulls much easier.

Now, something I would strongly recommend with any 1/2 ton pickup is to purchase the higher pressure tires like the 3/4 and 1-ton trucks use. They take a much high pressure and as such the tire sidewalls are effectively less flexible. I swapped out my Michellin tires that were recommended for the 1/2 ton truck for the higher pressure Michellins and found it was like night and day as far as being a better towClick image for larger version

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Old 06-01-2015, 05:45 PM   #22
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My book states that the 2013 F-150 EcoBoost Super Cab "Max Trailer Tow Package" can tow 11, 300 lbs.
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Old 06-01-2015, 08:27 PM   #23
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We pull a 2014 FC 23D with our 2015 F150 EB with absolutely no problem including mountain passes. The 23d has a hitch weight of about 800 lbs. I've weighed all axles and am about 100 lbs over on the rear axles on the truck. The trucks payload sticker shows 1625 lbs.


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Old 06-01-2015, 11:51 PM   #24
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Having read this thread and others the only problem the F150's seem to have is payload capacity. Towing does not seem to be an issue at all. One must be careful when buying or specing out a F150 and make sure your payload is up to carrying your tongue weight and your gear.
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Old 06-02-2015, 01:32 AM   #25
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You might want to check you specs again.

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I have a Classic Limited 27. When I run, the trailer weight fully loaded with water and all the do-dads that my wife can fit into it is between 8000 and 9000 lbs. I pull this with a 2010 Ford F150 and it is just fine on the eastern seaboard. I would be concerned if I was out west. My Ford is not an off the lot model and has several options that give the Ford the best possible chance of success. The 5.4L V-8 with the 3.73 rear end and the heavy duty tow package including the transmission cooler and oil cooler. 18" wheels are another plus. At 65 mph the engine is turning about 2100 Rpm on a flat road. However, if I have a 3% grade my RPM jumps to close to 3000 RPM a 5% grade and I'm pushing 4000 rpm.

Now for the comparison:

The 3.5L eco-boost is rated at very near the same horsepower and torque as the 5.4L

but here is the kicker, the RPM at 65mph on a flat road will be near 2600 rpm and with the 3% grade and 5% grade the RPMS will be kissing 5000 RPM. I'm sorry, but even though the engine may do the job I am not convinced that it will last for 100,000 miles and I don't think that it would ever reach 200,000 without major engine repairs. I consider my F150 with the 5.4L is certainly marginal for this duty and I have considered the 3.5L but just can't feel comfortable with the very high RPM's that the engine would be seeing for long periods of time. It looks like the F250 will have to be the replacement for me.

I am looking at the Ram 1500 with the 3.0L Italian diesel this is a snappy machine with the 8 speed transmission.

But even this diesel is just too marginal for my trailer. Would be very interested in what you end up with and how it works for you.

Gary
Hi, my Lincoln with one of the best 5.4L engines that Ford built Has 65 horse power less and 65 pounds torque less than my F-150 3.5L Ecoboost and my Ecoboost won't lose 30% of it's horse power at altitudes.

Road tests have shown that Fords tiny 2.7L Ecoboost runs all over the Little Dodge Diesel.
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My book states that the 2013 F-150 EcoBoost Super Cab "Max Trailer Tow Package" can tow 11, 300 lbs.
Hi, my 2014 F-150 Ecoboost super crew cab, max tow package is rated to tow 11,200 lbs. And it has a GCWR of 17,100 lbs with a GVWR 7,650 lbs. So if my truck is loaded to the max of 7,650 lbs I only have 9,450 lbs left for towing.


My payload is 1,745 lbs and my trailer has a GVWR of 6,300 lbs.
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Going up the hills i suspect they struggle, even though people tend to defend their purchases as good choices, sometimes i question that. Coming down the hills, a different matter. No engine brakes, hope a fuse does not blow from holding your hand of the brake controller or the pads wear out, maybe the 1/2 tons now come with an anchor to drag. I picture this as most akin to the definition of a small boat, that being any boat smaller than the one, one owns.
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Me thinks Mr. ROBERTSUNRUS speaks wisely
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