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Old 10-29-2008, 07:34 AM   #29
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Bill,

We have a member in our unit that pulls his 34 footer with a Toyota 1/2 ton crew cab pickup, and says "it pulls it fine with no problems....it has a 10,000 pound towing capacity".

And so it does, as he shows up at every rally just like everyone using 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:52 AM   #30
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Sounds like the Ant's are back in the Hill, great!

Be happy we still have choices.

Do what your comfortable with, do it safely.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:24 AM   #31
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As far as a truck goes; you will be fine with a 1/2 ton or a 3/4 ton for a 25' Airstream. Don't let anyone talk you into anything bigger. All you will need is 3.73 gears for that weight.

As far was what truck you want; it depends on what you are looking for.

1/2 TON: I am not 100% sure what I would use if i would get a 1/2 ton. But I can tell you that my 2004 F150 5.4L FX4 3.73s towed my 2005 25' CCD with no issues at all. So I would probably get another one of those.

3/4 TON: If you want a gas engine, no question about it get an F250 with a V10. If you want a diesel, go with the truck that you enjoy the most. All have their advantages and disadvantages. Just remember, a diesel is worth it if you actually work your truck alot. If you are only going to tow a few times a year and that is the only thing you use the truck for, it may not be worth the cost. I am a huge diesel fan myself and currently full-time in my 2006 34' SO Limited and tow it with ease with my 2006 F250 6.0L FX4 3.73s.

Most people think that it is the power of an engine that makes it a safe TV. The fact is, stopping power should be what is the ultimate factor in a TV. Bottom line is just about any 1/2 ton truck will handle a 25' Airstream trailer. A 1/2 ton is just not as durable as a 3/4 ton is all. GL in whatever you decide.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:32 AM   #32
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Contemplate your tongue weight. A properly set up trailer (safe) will have 10- 12 percent of the total trailer weight as tongue weight.A 6000# trailer safely set up will have 600#-720# tongue weight. Weigh your trailer and tongue!Then you can do the calculations you need to do.An inproperly balanced trailer will cause safety issues that the biggest truck & fancy hitch cannot overcome. And in regards to the tow vehicle,an early model F series 7.3 DIT Diesel is the best. Oh wait, I am a Ford diesel mechanic and that was the truck I happened to own when I got my Airstream. Mine has 265,000 miles on it and runs like the proverbiale watch! Good luck and go camping,A lot !
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:45 AM   #33
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[QUOTE=BillTex;The problem with ½ tons (as just mentioned by DrPlay) is payload, not tow capacity. Yes you may be able to tow 10,000# with a ½ ton (yikes!) [/QUOTE]


As I have Stated many times this is an opinion not fact... Have you towed your rig with a Titan, Tundra or F150 to see how it handles????

The OP may not even want a Truck we don't know as he/she has not posted again...



We have a member in our unit that pulls his 34 footer with a Toyota 1/2 ton crew cab pickup, and says "it pulls it fine with no problems....it has a 10,000 pound towing capacity".

And so it does, as he shows up at every rally just like everyone using 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
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I have towed my trailer with a 2006 dodge 3/4 ton and my Sequoia,, It towes much better with the Sequoia... Smoother for sure....

I have also towed a 2004 28' Safari with no trouble...

It's what your use too.... I would just say, stay within the tow load ratings... And If your doing long trips, 80% of the load is good place to start.

My Sequoia has a larger tow rating than the newer 3/4 ton burbs... Whats up with that????


Lets not burn the ants here... IF you are not comfortable with a 1/2 ton thats fine...

But there are a lot, a lot of people towing with them, and they are not having any problems or creating lawn ornaments as has been suggested....

Most accedintes are not caused by the tow vichle but by driving to fast>>>>> Or when passing semi Trucks...
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:44 AM   #34
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Most accedintes are not caused by the tow vichle but by driving to fast>>>>> Or when passing semi Trucks...
Yep, the First Thing needed for a safe equasion is a competent, safe driver. Without a safe driver, no matter the tow vehicle, you've got an accident just waiting for a place to happen.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:14 AM   #35
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My experience pulling a 2005 25FB with a half ton is not opinion; it is fact. Until recently I pulled Lucy with a 1/2 ton 2004 Chevrolet Tahoe (5.3 liter), and a 3/4 ton 2005 Suburban (6.0 liter). I had these two TVs at the same time, and tried towing with them alternately. The Tahoe could tow Lucy just fine as long as there were no severe upgrades. When these situations were encountered with the Tahoe, she strained considerably to get Lucy up the hil at 70 mph. The Suburban had no trouble at all doing this.

The part that concerned me more was the braking. The Tahoe did not have the brakes of the Suburban, and this was very noticeable in hard stop situations. Also the Tahoe had rear coil suspension which felt a little mushy as compared to the rear leaf springs of the Suburban. Most half tons (including Tahoes) come from the factory with load range C tires which don't cut it when you want to tow 7000# + for a long distance at high speed.

My somewhat extensive experience with 1/2 vs. 3/4 ton TVs during the same periods with the same Airstream has led me to the following conclusion:

A 1/2 ton TV is probably sufficient for the casual Airstream camper who pulls his trailer 80 miles to the lake or RV resort and back home, and does this six or eight times a year, maybe makes one 500 mile trip per year.

If you pull your Airstream 20,000 miles a year with 5,000 and 8,000 mile single trips, carry a tandem kayak with all its gear, two generators, extra gasoline, a complete set of tools, clothes and provisions for six weeks away from home, and several hundred pounds of business equipment, a 3/4 ton is what I want to be driving.

In other words, it depends on your style of Airstreaming as to whether a 1/2 or 3/4 ton TV is the right one for you.

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Old 10-29-2008, 12:08 PM   #36
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My experience pulling a 2005 25FB with a half ton is not opinion; it is fact. Until recently I pulled Lucy with a 1/2 ton 2004 Chevrolet Tahoe (5.3 liter), and a 3/4 ton 2005 Suburban (6.0 liter). I had these two TVs at the same time, and tried towing with them alternately. The Tahoe could tow Lucy just fine as long as there were no severe upgrades. When these situations were encountered with the Tahoe, she strained considerably to get Lucy up the hil at 70 mph. The Suburban had no trouble at all doing this.

The part that concerned me more was the braking. The Tahoe did not have the brakes of the Suburban, and this was very noticeable in hard stop situations. Also the Tahoe had rear coil suspension which felt a little mushy as compared to the rear leaf springs of the Suburban. Most half tons (including Tahoes) come from the factory with load range C tires which don't cut it when you want to tow 7000# + for a long distance at high speed.

My somewhat extensive experience with 1/2 vs. 3/4 ton TVs during the same periods with the same Airstream has led me to the following conclusion:

A 1/2 ton TV is probably sufficient for the casual Airstream camper who pulls his trailer 80 miles to the lake or RV resort and back home, and does this six or eight times a year, maybe makes one 500 mile trip per year.

If you pull your Airstream 20,000 miles a year with 5,000 and 8,000 mile single trips, carry a tandem kayak with all its gear, two generators, extra gasoline, a complete set of tools, clothes and provisions for six weeks away from home, and several hundred pounds of business equipment, a 3/4 ton is what I want to be driving.

In other words, it depends on your style of Airstreaming as to whether a 1/2 or 3/4 ton TV is the right one for you.

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I would agree with everything you have said here.... IT makes a lot of sense...

Bottom line your Tahoe wouldn't carry all that weight... So you need a 3/4 ton...
Tundra is rated for what? 10800 lbs, my Sequiao 9600lbs I wouldn't want more than 8000 lbs on a long trip... for sure...

Wish the PO would post what he was looking for we could maybe help him/her out more..
Or maybe it was just someone kicking the ant hill and burning it
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make sure what ever truck you choose that it has heavy duty cooling.also make sure it has additional cooling capacity for the tranny.i have towed with half ton trucks with towing packages that would overheat on warm summer days.these trucks were gas v8 engines.the newer trucks are equipped with tow/haul transmissions that even have extra fluid pumping capacity when you are in the tow/haul mode.if a truck is not properly equipped they dont tend to have much longevity.i had a expedition that i towed a 26 ft sob with.it seemed when i would get to my destination that the trucks tongue was hanging out.also most hills in pa,the accelerator felt like i was putting my foot down in a bucket of water.every hill i watched the temp gauge go up.traded that truck on a diesel excursion,have a bigger and heavier airstream and now i feel like the truck is towing the trailer.remember it helps to have a tow vehicle with some weight when you are towing a travel trailer.that is generally why the 3/4 tons are a more stable tow.
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All vary goood advice above. I towed a 1971 25' land yacht for many miles and used a Ford E150 conversion van with the standard 351. This was often in the summer with the air conditioner running. I did install an extra transmission cooler and had the towing package that came with the truck.

Just a couple things seemed to make the difference. Making sure that it kept cool was easy as long as I turned the air off for 3-5 minutes before slowing from highway speeds, kept the brakes in good shape - hard stopswere a little harrowing. The biggest point is that stability seemed related to wheelbase of the tow vehicle rather than the power or braking ability. The van pulled great in that sense. I now pull a 31' e
Excello with a GMC Denali PU and the package is better in every way. It is stable with plenty of power (345 hp), towing package and transmission and plenty of braking.
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All vary goood advice above. I towed a 1971 25' land yacht for many miles and used a Ford E150 conversion van with the standard 351. This was often in the summer with the air conditioner running. I did install an extra transmission cooler and had the towing package that came with the truck.

Just a couple things seemed to make the difference. Making sure that it kept cool was easy as long as I turned the air off for 3-5 minutes before slowing from highway speeds, kept the brakes in good shape - hard stopswere a little harrowing. The biggest point is that stability seemed related to wheelbase of the tow vehicle rather than the power or braking ability. The van pulled great in that sense. I now pull a 31' e
Excello with a GMC Denali PU and the package is better in every way. It is stable with plenty of power (345 hp), towing package and transmission and plenty of braking.
JOE! You mean to tell us you are pulling a 31' Airstream with a 1/2 ton truck???? How can that POSSIBLY BE????
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Just an FYI, the person that started this thread hasn't been back since they made their first and only post. Do you think we scared him away?
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I think it was a set up to devide us

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