Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 03-07-2007, 12:23 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
SilverCabin's Avatar

 
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Viera , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,147
Question How to get Tow/Haul on an F-150

Iíve been thinking about installing an engine reprogrammer to give me a tow/haul mode on my Lincoln Mark LT (essentially an F-150 crew cab, with nicer clothing). The truck came with a 5.4L 3-valve Triton V8, HD Trailer Towing Package, and 3.73 limited-slip differential. We do just fine on the flats or rolling hills in Central and North Florida, but are looking at bigger hills and mountains this summer and fall.

There are several brands available. The most popular seems to be the Superchips Flash Paq: http://www.superchips.com/home.phtml

The literature on these things promises more horsepower, better shift points, etc. As an added feature, they will also reprogram the speedometer if you change wheel/tire size. The down side is that you have to burn premium gas after you reprogram to the tow/haul mode. You can reset to the factory setting (and regular fuel) when not towing, and supposedly these wonít void the truck warranty.

Does anyone on the forum have any experience with these?

Randy
__________________

__________________
Randy and Pat Godfrey
Region 3 2nd VP, Newsletter Editor, Florida Unit
WBCCI# 7591 - AIR# 17017
2014 27FB Flying Cloud - SilverCabin II
2006 Lincoln Mark LT - Hoke

A journey of a thousand miles, begins with a cash advance
SilverCabin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 12:53 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
1992 34' Limited
Falls Church , Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 945
Re-programming...?!

Randy -

Read your post and have one basic thought - you can do what your 're-programming' computer PROM will do, by using the shift lever. Just put it in 3 when you need additional "Umph"....

All that other stuff sounds like to much 'fiddling' for my tastes, then there is the warrenty issue, premium fuel, etc.... You also need to find room for the additional controls.

Put the additional $'s into a trans cooler, better gauges and camping fees.

Just my .02 cents - worth every penny paid.

Axel
SilverToy
__________________

__________________
SilverToy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 01:35 PM   #3
Rivet Master<br><img src="/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif">
 
CanoeStream's Avatar

 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud , Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,279
Images: 19
Blog Entries: 3
Tow-haul raises the shift points so that the tranny doesn't shift up until in a somewhat higher RPM range. I don't believe tow-haul does anything else. I can't believe you would see any towing improvement with a 23' unless accelerating aggressively. You're a long way from the mountains and I'd side with manually shifting down if you were lugging up a long upgrade -- and then only if the tranny didn't do that anyway.
__________________
Bob

5 meter Langford Nahanni

CanoeStream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 02:04 PM   #4
3 Rivet Member
 
nymphfishin's Avatar
 
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Del Norte , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 147
Images: 30
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverToy
Randy -


Put the additional $'s into a trans cooler, better gauges and camping fees.

Just my .02 cents - worth every penny paid.

Axel
SilverToy
Randy
I gotta agree with SilverToy, additional gauges and Cooler, the 5.4L will do the rest. Enjoy the trips!
IMO
Don
__________________
nymphfishin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 02:22 PM   #5
Aluminut
 
Silvertwinkie's Avatar
 
2004 25' Safari
. , Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,334
I'd tend to agree with what has been said. One additional thought is getting your PCM modified so that the torque converter locks sooner than later. I did this with my Impala SS before I retired it from towing the Safari. It worked and I even towed in overdrive and did no harm to the trans.
__________________
Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq and millions of others are by far the most popular with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. -NY Times 11/91
Silvertwinkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 02:48 PM   #6
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
hi rodney

while reprogramed ecu's (chips) are popular...

this really won't accomplish much for improved towing.

better hp yes (with the 91+ fuel) but without other mods not much torque gain....

one would need to alter the air intake/exhaust and/or add forced induction for that goal.

your truck/trailer combo are fine as is, but IF you really want a reasonable towing modification...

look at a gear vendors product.

http://www.gearvendors.com/fdrive.html

start at their home page are read some. contact them for your specific application.

one feature "factory" tow/haul modes include is downshifting or engine braking...

whiich is really nice to have coming down long mountain passes...

you can do this manually...

IF i were planning to alter the 150, i'd include another tranny cooler.

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 10:14 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
SilverCabin's Avatar

 
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Viera , Florida
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,147
Thumbs down Looks like it's not worth the cost

Thanks Silver Toy, Canoe stream, nymphfishin, Silvertwinkie, and 2air. Your knowledge, advice, and information continues to be invaluable.

I was kind of leaning away from buying one of these things and you guys cinched it. I started down this path because a neighbor who pulls an SOB with an F-150 has one installed and thinks it's great. I'm not trying to win races with my trailer on the hitch, so as was pointed out, just good power management will accomplish this without spending the $300.00.

I saw a thread here discussing engine and transmission gauges. I'll look into that as you all suggested.

Randy
__________________
Randy and Pat Godfrey
Region 3 2nd VP, Newsletter Editor, Florida Unit
WBCCI# 7591 - AIR# 17017
2014 27FB Flying Cloud - SilverCabin II
2006 Lincoln Mark LT - Hoke

A journey of a thousand miles, begins with a cash advance
SilverCabin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 10:53 PM   #8
Rivet Master<br><img src="/ugala/forums/images/5rivet.gif">
 
CanoeStream's Avatar

 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud , Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,279
Images: 19
Blog Entries: 3
Thumbs up Tranny temp gauge

Worth it the first time I needed it on my 1/2-ton Nissan Titan. Avoid US-50 in NE West Virginia at all costs!
__________________
Bob

5 meter Langford Nahanni

CanoeStream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 11:08 PM   #9
3 Rivet Member
 
nymphfishin's Avatar
 
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Del Norte , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 147
Images: 30
Tranny Temp Gauge

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canoe stream
Worth it the first time I needed it on my 1/2-ton Nissan Titan. Avoid US-50 in NE West Virginia at all costs!

Dang, I put a tranny temp gauge and an additional tranny cooler on my 94 Burb 6.5L TD cost about $165-$170, did that right after I burned up a tranny, repair was $4,000.00....
Sure wished I had installed them earlier!
Don
__________________
nymphfishin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 06:39 AM   #10
Naysayer
 
Boondocker's Avatar

 
1968 24' Tradewind
Louisville , earth
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,635
Images: 7
Send a message via Yahoo to Boondocker
Tranny coolers are for automatic transmissions arent they? I just realized that I believe that and Im not sure why. Do I have an exposure with my standard transmission?
__________________
Rodney

Visit my photography page
and the
Favorite camp grounds project map
My Blog

(The artist formerly known as General Disarray)

Boondocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 08:43 AM   #11
More than one rivet loose
 
thecatsandi's Avatar

 
Currently Looking...
Keymar , Maryland
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,754
My 04 F-250 Manual transmission had a factory installled cooler. No temp guage. I was going to install one but the truck is no longer with me.
__________________

__________________
Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball

Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud

thecatsandi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
air suspension brunoffrance Tow Vehicles 20 04-05-2005 01:39 AM
ebay - BLACK belt line 150' new old stock ViewRVs Airstream Motorhome Forums 0 06-20-2004 07:03 PM
Build-a-Rally Edie The Rally Zone 33 04-29-2004 11:14 PM
Ford E 150 brunoffrance Tow Vehicles 23 10-27-2003 06:55 PM
Tow/Haul feature on GM vehicles Silvertwinkie Our Community 2 08-06-2003 10:06 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.