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Old 06-30-2007, 06:14 AM   #1
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Honda rated #1 by JD Powers

In the news yesterday....

JD Powers rates the Honda Oddy & Ridgeline as the top vehicles in their class. The Ford Edge was top rated in the cross over class. No other details were given.

Minivan... Oddy
Truck... Ridgeline
Crossover... Edge
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:52 AM   #2
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...not that any would be really great TVs, but I am please to see Ford came out with 2 areas of high quailty marks.......

It's a start!

Having owned 2-3 Honda, I can tell you that they are not as great of a car as they use to be.

As a matter of fact, I read recently that Toyota is considering not putting any more capacity in to the US for production due to two factors. One the yen vs. the dollar and the other is that the QC of the stuff coming off the US lines is nowhere near that of what comes off the Asian lines. Toyota is not happy with the fact that they have had massive recalls as they have grown...and that's what I read. True or not, you never know sometimes the slant a newspaper may put on a story.
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The Ridgeline has a 1,100-pound bed payload capacity (making it a true half-ton truck, to use older terminology), and it can haul a 5,000 lb trailer. Honda research determined that 80% of truck buyers will tow less than 5,000 lbs, and have consequently targeted this market.
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The Ridgeline has a 1,100-pound bed payload capacity (making it a true half-ton truck, to use older terminology), and it can haul a 5,000 lb trailer. Honda research determined that 80% of truck buyers will tow less than 5,000 lbs, and have consequently targeted this market.
Owned a Ridgeline for over a year. However, it was not the ideal TV for our new to us 2000 34' Limited. Sold it and am now back to driving American iron.

You know its a truck when you need a step ladder to wash the roof. You know its a real truck when you have to look down to see into a foreign SUV. In fact after driving the F250 when I get into my wife's Odyssey I feel like I'm in a Yugo.
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Old 07-02-2007, 12:11 AM   #5
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Owned a Ridgeline for over a year. However, it was not the ideal TV for our new to us 2000 34' Limited. Sold it and am now back to driving American iron.

You know its a truck when you need a step ladder to wash the roof. You know its a real truck when you have to look down to see into a foreign SUV. In fact after driving the F250 when I get into my wife's Odyssey I feel like I'm in a Yugo.
Then I guess my Sprinter is in the 'real truck' catagory!! You need a ladder, not a step ladder to wash the roof and I can see over just about any SUV on the road while driving and you can put a full size motorcycle inside along with tool boxes lining both sides. Add to that the 3000 lb. in-truck payload and the 5000 lb. tow capacity while getting 14-17 mph while towing at the speed limit and I guess it's a real truck !!
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When I first saw this post I expected to read about JD Powers rating for Honda generators since their suv and truck have limited ability to tow an Airstream. That is probably changing with the new lighter Sport models. We used our Cherokee with its 4.0 liter engine and 5000lb tow rating to tow our 22' CCD but don't know if the smaller 3.5 liter engine in the Ridgeline would have the low end torgue of the 4.0 inline six.
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We used our Cherokee with its 4.0 liter engine and 5000lb tow rating to tow our 22' CCD but don't know if the smaller 3.5 liter engine in the Ridgeline would have the low end torgue of the 4.0 inline six.
Your trying to compare a Cherokee with a (dated, low tech) 4.0 with a Ridgeline with a Honda (state of the art) 3.5...

Your joking right??? LOL
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I'd agree that both are not really all that great. The Ridgeline is a front drive V6, lots of power, but the front drive isn't really a great TV for higher to the limit loads. There is something about a driveshaft, transmission and rear gearbox that are slightly more robust that I personally like better when towing 5000lbs. Less than that? Say 3000lbs, 2500lbs, I'd be very comfy with the Ridgeline and others like it. That's not to say the Honda is a bad truck by any means. Just my personal opinion based on exp.
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I'd agree that both are not really all that great. The Ridgeline is a front drive V6, lots of power, but the front drive isn't really a great TV for higher to the limit loads. There is something about a driveshaft, transmission and rear gearbox that are slightly more robust that I personally like better when towing 5000lbs. Less than that? Say 3000lbs, 2500lbs, I'd be very comfy with the Ridgeline and others like it. That's not to say the Honda is a bad truck by any means. Just my personal opinion based on exp.
The Ridgeline was a nice truck for me at the time. Had that hidden trunk in the bed of the truck. Kept all my smelly fly fishing gear in there! Plus it had a drain plug in the bottom so you could I guess fill it with ice and have a big party. It does come stock with a tranny cooler and the other essentials for towing, just not up to par for "serious loads".
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Your trying to compare a Cherokee with a (dated, low tech) 4.0 with a Ridgeline with a Honda (state of the art) 3.5...

Your joking right??? LOL
I hope you weren't serious about this statement. You can't find a gas motor that has more torque and as reliable as the 4.0 inline 6 cylinder engine pound for pound. I have seen many of these engines go well over 250k miles - they are hard to kill.
The only thing you gain with a V6 is there is less vibration and higher revs.
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I hope you weren't serious about this statement. You can't find a gas motor that has more torque and as reliable as the 4.0 inline 6 cylinder engine pound for pound. I have seen many of these engines go well over 250k miles - they are hard to kill.
The only thing you gain with a V6 is there is less vibration and higher revs.
I will use a Japanese TV when I buy my first Japanese RV.



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I hope you weren't serious about this statement. You can't find a gas motor that has more torque and as reliable as the 4.0 inline 6 cylinder engine pound for pound. I have seen many of these engines go well over 250k miles - they are hard to kill.
The only thing you gain with a V6 is there is less vibration and higher revs.
Yes I was 100% serious and yes I agree with you completely about the fine specs on the 4.0 inline 6 but............................. oh the V6 imports are so much better!!

I speak from experience. I was a big AMC fan years ago. Drag raced the 4.0L and 360ci AMC powered vehicles. I have also towed for over 10 years with the 3.0VQ V6 Nissan engine and now using the 3.5V VQ V6 engine (very simialar to the Honda V6). No comparision!
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No offense Road Ruler, but a fair number of Canadians typically tow with underpowered or what some would consider quesionable vehicles. I see from your profile that you tow a 23' Airstream with a Nissan minivan. I'm sure you are happy with this, and it works well for you, but so did the guy that got a Dodge Intrepid to tow a 34' Airstream who also happened to be a Canadian as well.
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ST.... Are you confusing me with someone else??? If anything our present TV has power to spare and we haven't towed with the Nissan M-van for years?!?!?!
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