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08-09-2013, 05:24 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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It's really just the feel good rationalization of a personal decision. 
Very much like TV,tires,hitches,coffee,converters,campfire's,
batteries and underwear.
Safe Stream'n,
Bob
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08-09-2013, 06:06 AM
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Rivet Master 
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Especially coffee.
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08-09-2013, 06:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Lots of feel good rationalizations going on, from buying marginal tow vehicles (which are working fine for people) to heavy duty diesels twice the size needed (which are working fine for people).
doug
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08-09-2013, 07:04 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Lots of feel good rationalizations going on, from buying marginal tow vehicles (which are working fine for people) to heavy duty diesels twice the size needed (which are working fine for people).
doug
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I prefer boxers. 
Bob
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08-09-2013, 07:26 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
Currently Looking...
Greer
, South Carolina
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I had a 2009 Odyssey van that I setup to tow. Essentially a bolt-on trailer hitch (the honda is pre-drilled, takes 4 bolts) and the wiring harness for lights. I wanted to tow my utility trailer with a heavy lawn tractor on it.
the problem with the Odyssey was that it can't take much tongue weight, and you can't use a WD hitch.
I thought it was marginal at best for even this light load. Even if someone is "setting you up", I think it's not adequate or safe for a trailer upwards of 3000 lbs and a 500-600lb tongue weight. Even if you change the rear suspension, use a WD hitch, you still can get past the structural limits of the vehicle, the load limits of the wheels & tires, limits of engine power or the limits of what the transmission will take.
I also wouldn't call a guy who "sets up" overloaded vehicles a professional of any sort.
You may be able to do it for a bit, but eventually you will burn up what is a very expensive minivan. Also, as others have implied, there is doing something, and then there is doing something comfortably. You definately want to have some safety margin in your TV. How much is up to you, but always people will recommend that you have some.
Good luck!
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08-09-2013, 07:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Boxer briefs are better!
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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08-09-2013, 07:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
I prefer boxers.
Bob
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Twice the size you need?
Typical Marine.
doug
USN retired
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08-09-2013, 07:53 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
Twice the size you need?
Typical Marine.
doug
USN retired
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This choice has nothing to do with my Jar-head, although the two areas are hardwired.
Bob
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08-09-2013, 09:23 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2001 25' Safari
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perri
>CanAm airstream dealer in Canada.
This is the perennial answer, and I'm open to it. But why is Andy T in Ontario the only guy recommended? If this is such a sensible, successful alternative (and my mind is open to believing it is), why aren't there more mechanics across the US providing this service, or if there are, why aren't they mentioned?
I am sincere in my questions.
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You may want to ask Andy directly, but I'm sure what he will tell you is that there's not a lot of profit in hitch work. Most RV dealers make their money on selling trailers, not hitches. Also, setting up a "modest" tow vehicles to tow safely requires specialized knowledge about each vehicle. Consider that most Canadians drive smaller vehicles as compared to Americans, it's probably logical that Can-Am developed their expertise here in Canada, but as fuel costs rise everywhere interest in Can-Am setups is widening.
Anyway, Can-Am RV is a second generation family-owned business that chose to specialize in hitch work. If you ask any car dealer in the region about challenging towing setups they'll invariably send you to Can-Am. My only concern is that when Andy retires, I'm not sure there's anyone ready or willing to fill his shoes, which would be a huge loss to the towing community.
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2001 Safari 25 SS
2011 Chevy Traverse 3.6L AWD • Hensley • DirecLink • McKesh
Set-up by Can-Am RV
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08-09-2013, 11:14 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 34' International
Toronto
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wncrasher
and you can't use a WD hitch.
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The Honda manual specifically states that you should use a WD hitch to tow more than 1850 lbs.
The maximum allowable weight of the vehicle, all occupants, all cargo,
and the tongue load must not exceed 2,910 lbs (1,320 kg) on the front axle,
and 3,197 lbs (1,450 kg) on the rear axle, i.e ample.
The payload of an Odyssey is 1400lbs, with axles and tires accordingly, this matches and even exceeds that of many 1/2 trucks, etc, etc...
Straight from the manual:
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