HHO Hydrogen fuel cell

[76sovereign]

Has anyone built their Own Fuel Cells (HHO) to generate hydrogen to increase your gas mileage on your TV?

From what I have read you can save 40 to 70% on your gas mileage using these.

[markdoane]

What you get is a useless piece of crap, and a booklet with economical driving tips. Throw away the "EleCtrOlyZer" and read the booklet, you'll do just as well.

[ROBERT CROSS]

Mark you DFFI did you?


Waste of money...

Pump up the tires 5lbs it's free...

[Lumatic]

I've met several people who said they were in the process of building one. I kept following up with them thinking if it works I'll do it. For some unknown reason they never said they got it off the ground. Maybe they were embarassed they fell for it.

[SteveH]

Don't know if they work or not, but here's a video of one that's installed down here and is supposed to work:

[Minnie's Mate]

That looks kind of like a devise that was shown on Planet Green this past summer. They even installed one on the shows motor home. They claimed it worked. But I guess you can't believe everything you see on TV even if it is shown on a tree hugger network.

[Tim A.]

Looks an awful lot like a perpetual motion machine to me: Take energy from the car's electrical system to process water to produce more energy from the engine. Remember, the energy in the electrical system is produced by the engine.

If this really worked, automobile and truck manufacturers would be on it like ants on honey because it would satisfy fuel economy and reduced CO2 emissions regulations in one step.

[markdoane]

Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS

Mark you DFFI did you?


Waste of money...

Pump up the tires 5lbs it's free...

Nah, but I hate people that use pseudo-science to rip people off.

Can you install one of these and will it "work"?
Probably yes, but the amount of energy you will recover is less than the energy needed to power the alternator.

Entropy rules!

[FLYNCLD]

I have a real nice bridge in Brooklyn I will sell!

[FLYNCLD]

Sorry to be flippant! Basic laws of energy state that you cannot get more power out than you put in.

[Diesel1]

My brother-in-law built one of those contraptions. He maintains a fleet of trucks for a produce warehouse in Phoenix. The owner was convinced it would save fuel. Quite a nice looking contraption,lots of wires and hoses.After a couple of weeks the only thing that it clearly generated was a paycheck for my brother-in-law. Reminds me of the spark magnifier's sold at the Greyhound park swapmeet in Phx in the late 60's. The only thing they magnified was the seller's income. Adios, John

[CanoeStream]

We've been here before - http://www.airforums.com/forums/f159...cam-41404.html. Funny thing about that last thread -- the company promoting it stressed keeping top speeds down, soft accelerations, etc, for you to get your mpg improvement. Electrolyse water? That takes power. Might as well put a gasohol plant alongside the engine and fuel it with leftover syrup from IHOP -- for free then, right?!

Snake oil...

[Wayne&Sam]

Well my experience is a bit different.

I spent a morning installing the HHO, the Spark Magnifier and a few other mileage enhancing devices I bought on the internet. The installation went smoothly and I thought I did a nice, clean job. I'll post photos when I get a chance.

I left the house with half a tank of gas and went about running the various errands I had to do and expected to do about 150-180 miles of driving during the course of the day. I couple hours into my trip, I looked at the gas gauge and saw it was registering 5/8 full. I could have sworn it was only half full when I left. The vehicle was level both times I read the gauge, but maybe I remembered incorrectly. I continued on my way.

Later in the day, after another 50 miles or so I looked at the gauge again. I couldn't believe my eyes. I now registered 3/4 full. It was amazing- I seemed to not be getting miles per gallon, but gallons per mile! I started worrying about overflowing my gas tank, so I aborted my trip and headed straight home. By the time I got there my tank was completely full!

The next day I siphoned gas out of my car into my wife's to fill her tank. See, you need two cars for this to safely work. One converted with all the gizmos and another just to burn the excess gas they create.

I have no financial interest in any of those products, I just wanted to share my experience with you.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[soldiermedic]

Bob,

Why just not add a bottle of it right to the fuel tank. I hear it works wonders

[SteveH]

Seriously speaking....I discussed "alternative fuels" one day with a good friend of mine who happens to also be a Petroleum Engineer for one of the larger oil companies, and he asked me "what alternative fuel, we don't really have an alternative at this time". And I replied, " how about hydrogen"?

Then, he replied, "where are you going to get the hydrogen?"

I replied, thinking what's wrong with this guy....everyone knows you can get hydrogen from water, and I replied, "from water".

Then he got to the real subject of the matter when he asked, "what are you going to use for the energy to crack the water?"

I replied, "nuclear energy".

His response was, "at this time, that's the only practical way, but we don't have the necessary amount of nuclear energy".

So, practically speaking, at this time, it can't be done, and if we want to do it in the near future, we need to be building more nuclear power plants in this country.

Now, there's a topic to start some arguments!

[halimer]

Being born in Brooklyn, I am the right full owner of the Brooklyn Bridge. I even have the deed and it is not for sale. I can get you a good deal on the Williamsburg Bridge. It is being sold as is.

Mark
1883 Burnett St.
Marine Park, Brooklyn, NY

[ROBERT CROSS]

Now here is something that IS pretty cool....


Disappearing Car Doors: A Revolutionary Concept in Car Technology & Design

[FLYNCLD]

You mean the title I have to the bridge is no good!! And to think the guy who sold it to me was pulling an AS!!

[Over59]

Originally Posted by SteveH

Seriously speaking....I discussed "alternative fuels" one day with a good friend of mine who happens to also be a Petroleum Engineer for one of the larger oil companies, and he asked me "what alternative fuel, we don't really have an alternative at this time". And I replied, " how about hydrogen"?

Then, he replied, "where are you going to get the hydrogen?"

I replied, thinking what's wrong with this guy....everyone knows you can get hydrogen from water, and I replied, "from water".

Then he got to the real subject of the matter when he asked, "what are you going to use for the energy to crack the water?"

I replied, "nuclear energy".

His response was, "at this time, that's the only practical way, but we don't have the necessary amount of nuclear energy".

So, practically speaking, at this time, it can't be done, and if we want to do it in the near future, we need to be building more nuclear power plants in this country.

Now, there's a topic to start some arguments!

Solar panels in the desert. Of course we will need to truck the water in for cracking. You cann't imagine how many people in the lower New England states say Hydrogen Fuel with a look of wisdom..... We don't even get enough sun to get a good tan 9 months out of the year.

[94Tri]

Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam

Well my experience is a bit different.

I spent a morning installing the HHO, the Spark Magnifier and a few other mileage enhancing devices I bought on the internet. The installation went smoothly and I thought I did a nice, clean job. I'll post photos when I get a chance.

I left the house with half a tank of gas and went about running the various errands I had to do and expected to do about 150-180 miles of driving during the course of the day. I couple hours into my trip, I looked at the gas gauge and saw it was registering 5/8 full. I could have sworn it was only half full when I left. The vehicle was level both times I read the gauge, but maybe I remembered incorrectly. I continued on my way.

Later in the day, after another 50 miles or so I looked at the gauge again. I couldn't believe my eyes. I now registered 3/4 full. It was amazing- I seemed to not be getting miles per gallon, but gallons per mile! I started worrying about overflowing my gas tank, so I aborted my trip and headed straight home. By the time I got there my tank was completely full!

The next day I siphoned gas out of my car into my wife's to fill her tank. See, you need two cars for this to safely work. One converted with all the gizmos and another just to burn the excess gas they create.

I have no financial interest in any of those products, I just wanted to share my experience with you.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Hey there. If you will provide me with your address, I will be glad to bring my fuel hogs by to help with the excess fuel you generate