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Old 10-29-2013, 06:12 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by carl2591 View Post
how much does your unit weight now?? if you had a weight dist hitch how much would you feel good pulling and stopping?? the newer 28 ft's are gross around 9k .

man that is an amazing number for towing.. if that flat land or hills you get that kinda mileage..

Hi Carl,
The Overlander was about 5000lbs
I think with a WDH, i'd maybe go up to a sovereign 31ft, but then the trailer would be significantly heavier than the truck, stopping wise, i love the electric brakes, so much better than our sh@.* over run brakes. i have the Tekonsha Prodigy to keep on the right side of our laws. Towing an US built Airstream is doddle, which is partly because of the heavier hitch weight. European white box caravans and Euro finished Airstreams have the Axles in the centre, which reduces tongue weight but also reduces stability when towing.

just for your info, just did a 150 mile round trip this morning and returned 39.8mpg at average 65-70mph on dual carriage way and motorway.


i havc wondered about tongue weight of European trailers vs US trailers and not using WD style hitch set up. So it seem the trailer axles are a bit further back reducing weight on tongue and I see comments that can cause the towing unit to become more unstable while putting more weight on the trailer. What has been your experience with that??

When you say "our sh@3. overrun brakes, are you talking about the brake system i see on larger boat trailer that work when you step on car brakes it causes the boat trailer to slide forward pushing brake fluid out to brake shoes on axles slowing the trailer as well..

I have used that type of system and can tell you it will cause your butt to tighten up a bit when you first hit the brakes and you keep goooiinnggg for a bit then it kinda hooks up and slows down.. dammmmm....

I figured the way to go was to jam the brakes on and then sort let up a bit helped to reduce the lag a bit.. but i see the elec brakes on most larger trailers is the bomb for sure..

I am still impressed with your 39 mpIg at 65-70mph.. wish we could get your truck with our WD and elec brake system.. match made in heaven..

have a good day man..

PS what the difference between "dual carriage way and motor way" man you guys have strange ways of talking about streets vs interstates hwy..

Carl, Raleigh NC
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Wait and see what happens. I am concerned about fuel prices. I have NEVER seen the diesel/gas gap higher than it is right now in my area. Today I saw it $0.66 higher than regular! I notice as I used to own a 2010 TDi Jetta Sportwagen and now drive an F150 or scooter depending on weather and mood. That is a huge difference to me. Consider 14mpg city (my F150) 1000 miles@3.35 gal = $239 versus 21mpg city (diesel Jeep GC) 1000 miles@4.01 gal = $191. You save $48 in city driving per 1000 miles. Now consider the diesel upcharge of around $4000 compared to regular Grand Ch. and you have to drive about 83,000 to make the difference, right? The difference is even greater if you considered buying a used CPO F150 or something with low miles as they don't even cost what the gas Grand Cherokee costs- at least in XLT version.

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