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Old 11-12-2015, 05:53 AM   #29
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The op wanted a 4wD tv. How many of those recommended here were 4WD?

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Old 11-12-2015, 06:38 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by weber.roger View Post
Thanks for the intelligent reply. When you mention I have to tow in 5th. Doesn't the tow mode on the transmission handle this or do I have to manually shift?
dkottum said it perfectly from the perspective of firsthand knowledge. My towing experience is with a manual transmission and a conventional automatic with a manual shift mode.

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Old 11-12-2015, 08:24 AM   #31
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I believe this depends on the manufacturer's design. As an example both my F150s did this automatically; however, the new one's transmission is programmed differently than the older one. The very first thing I noticed on my tow was that engine revs were much more controlled- dialed in better to "grab the torque" than on the 2009 model and downshift braking was more aggressive.
God points here Rod' on using the engine/transmission to brake on steeper downhill grades. This is at least important as going up the hill.

In tow/haul mode our truck will also shift down to use engine compression to hold speed. Touching the brake initiates this feature, and it will continue to select a lower gear to hold speed.

On very steep grades you most probably will need to shift down manually and let the engine rev up to get enough compression braking to hold speed, and even then may have to add your truck and trailer brakes to combine engine compression and vehicle brakes to hold speed. Don't hesitate to use these components together to maintain safe downhill speeds.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:49 AM   #32
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At 35 mph in second, the 3.0L V6 diesel in our 2007 ML320 CDI has enough back pressure to control the descent on a several mile 6% grade into the Salt River Canyon just south of Show Low, AZ with the 23D attached. It had all the necessary power to go up the mountains on the East coast, as well as on I-10 coming back from Los Angles, CA with the 25FB behind.

My biggest concern is stopping on descents more than going up. One may find there is nothing left to stop with if they ride the brakes going down mountain for several miles.....
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ABSOLUTELY!!! I have survived 2 such harrowing events both made survival possible by manually activating the trailer brakes, downshifting once trailer sway was under control by accelerating and continually pumping the brakes. Make sure those brakes are fully functional.
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Old 11-30-2015, 02:29 PM   #34
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Hey Weber.Roger, welcome. I bought a used Ford F150 super crew in excellent shape 2 years old for just over half of its MSRP a few years back. Excellent truck. It had the tow package on it and loads of room inside and I got 12 mpg towing using regular gas which is great. There are deals out there. My truck was certified preowned with a 100K warranty too for just over $20K and looked new. Never owned a truck now I cannot imagine being without.

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