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Old 11-09-2015, 04:14 PM   #15
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A good used Ford Excursion/LTD gas (9mpg/tow//11.5 city) or diesel (12mpg/tow//20 city) if you can find one is my recommendation. Mine saved my life in a Hiway collision towing my 98 Excella Classic in Utah b/c it had the specs (3/4 ton+) to bring us safely trough crossing oncoming traffic, sideways down a shoulder and missing a telephone pole by mere inches.
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Old 11-09-2015, 05:54 PM   #16
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buy a 2500 GMC 6.5 bed pickup plenty of capacity put a cap on it and you have plenty of room to carry all your wife's necessary equipment lol

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Old 11-09-2015, 07:21 PM   #17
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We have a 2014 Toyota Sequoia Limited (5.7L engine) towing a 2015 23D Airstream (6000 lbs max), with an Equalizer sway-control hitch. We've only had the trailer about a month but towed it 1250 miles from Boise ID back to Santa Fe where we live. We love the combo: no sway at all, even with the big trucks out on I-80 in Wyoming and with gusty Wyoming winds. The 5.7L engine let us accelerate up hills. The Sequoia seems to be basically a Tundra with an SUV body; it has a factory-installed tow package with built-in trailer sway control and a nifty Tow/Haul button to push that makes the ride much smoother. And it's a really comfortable vehicle to drive long distances. Gas mileage rated 14 mpg in town/17 mpg highway. Plus the Toyota Sequoia rated most reliable in the latest Consumer Reports. We bought the Sequoia used with 24,000 miles on it in Sept. But be warned--it is big. We call it Jumbo, short for Jumbo Jet. But boy does it drive easily--it's my car when we're not on the road, and I'm only 5'3".
P.S. Tow capacity is about 7,100 lbs.
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Old 11-09-2015, 08:46 PM   #18
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I just purchased a 2016 19ft. Bambi flying cloud. weight loaded is 4600lbs.
I need advice on picking a proper 4 WD tow vehicle.
A lot of SUV's are rated for 5000 lbs.I am concerned that this is just too close to the 4600? Any advice on picking a 2 or 3 year old vehicle is appre ciated.
Roger, I'm making this comment due to previous comments about towing an Airstream or any other RV trailer at 75 or 80 mph per hour all day long. Almost all trailer ST tires are speed limited to 65 mph. Regardless of your TV, a trailer tire blowout at high speeds will have dire results. Please keep that in mind and don't try to power for 100 mph towing.
If you check a recent forum poll, the results show 85% of users tow @ 65 mph OR less. I tow @ 60 to 62 mph, but my 425 hp V-10 will hold that speed uphill or down. I run in direct drive on the steeper downgrades. Engine speed retard is important, too.
Try to drive safer that some forum members seem to be doing. I have seen a RV trailer roll & come apart & roll & destroy the Excursion towing it. Made a lasting impression on me.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:48 PM   #19
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My experience with both motorcycles and cars/trucks is that when driving at 55 mph, there is usually decent mpg in real world numbers. I see a 10% decrease in mpg for every 5 mph increment above 55.

This relates to the engineering maxim of it takes the cube of the power to double the speed.
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Old 11-11-2015, 04:24 PM   #20
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towing help

I just went for a 2014 Chevy Silverado with 4.3 6 cyl engine.
285 Hp 305 lbs Torque. (close enough for those who know more details than me so we don't need to go down that road)
Trailer is 19 ft. bambi airstream

weight is 4600
TV is rated at 5900

I think it will be very adequate. Anyone do this before me?
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:23 PM   #21
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Should be a nice match to your 19' Airstream with it's modern direct injection engine. And late model pickups are the bargain tow vehicle, not expensive to buy, fuel, or service. Don't hesitate to shift down the transmission as needed for hills and hilly terrain.

The third element is the weight distribution /sway control hitch. Get a good one with round tapered weight distribution bars for best flexibility, least stress on your hitch components. You may want to check into a used or rebuilt Hensley or ProPride style hitch to eliminate any sway concerns, at a reasonable cost.

Here's a page I have used to set up our hitch from towing expert Andrew Thomson at Can-Am Airstream in Ontario, very good.
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:33 PM   #22
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I just went for a 2014 Chevy Silverado with 4.3 6 cyl engine.
285 Hp 305 lbs Torque. (close enough for those who know more details than me so we don't need to go down that road)
Trailer is 19 ft. bambi airstream

weight is 4600
TV is rated at 5900

I think it will be very adequate. Anyone do this before me?

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It will be adequate. From the perspective of handling and stability, it won't be any different from a V8 truck. From a power perspective, it will do the job nicely. But - you will need to have reasonable expectations.

First, you will not be towing up 6% grades at 65-70 mph.
Second, you won't be able to lug along at 2000 rpm. Instead, you will need to be comfortable downshifting frequently and spinning the engine in the 3000-4000 rpm range to make the power you need. You will also use wide-open throttle routinely. However, none of this is bad for the engine or abusive, it's simply running it closer to its capacity than most engines are run.

I believe your truck has a 6 speed automatic. I expect you will end up towing in 5th, with regular downshifts to 4th and 3rd when you encounter hills. Your first towing experiences will teach you a lot about the performance characteristics of your truck.

I think you are making a reasonable and economical choice, and I wish you well with it and your Bambi.
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Old 11-11-2015, 05:50 PM   #23
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Look at the options and drive them before you decide. Remember cargo capacity or payload is not the same as towing capacity and the very challenge that any tow vehicle faces. The tongue weight is subtracted from cargo capacity or payload.

I will share that I had NEVER owned a pickup truck. I owned SUVs or sports sedans. Then when I considered buying an Airstream I went for the pickup. It is not a nimble vehicle but very much like a full-size car inside with a huge open trunk and lots of capability. It is also tomb quiet on the road- very nice. Mileage is not known to be on the new vehicle yet while towing. My old one averaged 12mpg towing. I leave tomorrow on my first trip but I suggest you not rule out a pickup without trying one out. There are some that are quite luxurious. I certainly had the wrong perception. There are many advantages for a truck as a tow vehicle, especially the cavernous bed, that are more limited on other selections, and, you really do not lose anything. They hold their value well and are so handy.
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Old 11-11-2015, 07:58 PM   #24
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Thanks for the intelligent reply. When you mention I have to tow in 5th. Doesn't the tow mode on the transmission handle this or do I have to manually shift?
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On our Ram 1500 the tow mode does not shift down, you select the gear manually. It does however prevent the transmission from ever using overdrive mode when engaged. Each truck, load, and trailer is different.

Everyday towing will have a variety of hills and headwinds that make the transmission repeatedly shift down by itself, the engine will rev up (often abruptly), then after each little hill, return to the normal gear. I think this is hard on the transmission and wastes engine fuel. So if it wants to shift down repeatedly (which it does most of the time in hilly terrain), I select a lower gear. I like 4th gear best, because that puts our transmission at a 1:1 ratio which is the most efficient transfer of power and less likely to ever overheat. The engine rpm in 4th at 60 mph is about 2100 rpm, which gives plenty of power (torque) to handle the changes in terrain. Without headwinds and terrain changes I may shift up to 5th gear.

So experiment as you go along, you will soon find the best gears for each towing condition and it quickly becomes very natural to choose the best one.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:19 AM   #26
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When you mention I have to tow in 5th. Doesn't the tow mode on the transmission handle this or do I have to manually shift?
I believe this depends on the manufacturer's design. As an example both my F150s did this automatically; however, the new one's transmission is programmed differently than the older one. The very first thing I noticed on my tow was that engine revs were much more controlled- dialed in better to "grab the torque" than on the 2009 model and downshift braking was more aggressive.
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Old 11-12-2015, 06:44 AM   #27
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I couldn't agree more. Our 2012 Mercedes 350 GL Bluetec is perfect for towing our 1904 25' Safari. It should handle the lighter trailer with ease.
That is a REALLY vintage trailer :-)
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A brand new Tahoe LTZ 4X4 starts at $65,805. A brand new GL 350 starts at $64,550. So, Chevy is actually the more expensive vehicle when purchased new. If they depreciate the same, Tahoe would be the more expensive vehicle used, as well.
1. Chevy will be much more heavily discounted vs MSRP.
2. Mercedes will depreciate much more slowly.
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