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Old 06-27-2008, 01:01 PM   #43
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There's been lots of discussion about whether towing a Sovereign with a 2000 Odyssey will work, but very little advice about how to do it.

Will it work? Sure. With an 11,000 lb gross combined weight, it will be bit slow on the hills, but if the owner is willing to run in 3rd at 60 mph (turning about 3200 rpm), it will perform well on moderate grades and only require the driver to slow down when grades exceed 3.5% or so. On a flat road, 4th would be fine but I'm not sure that the Honda shifter allows use of 4th, and 5th is too tall to work.

Payload capacity is fine to handle actual tongue weight plus a reasonable passenger load.

A suitable receiver is the most challenging aspect of setting things up. A custom made unit (or a manufactured unit with modifications) would be necessary to handle the tongue weight plus the torsional stresses of the weight distributing hitch. The van is stable to begin with; careful hitch setup will ensure that the trailer is a pleasure to tow.

The biggest potential issue with the Odyssey is the transnmission. Honda still hasn't sorted those out, because a friend recently had the transmission replaced (under warranty) on his 2007 model. However, I'm starting to believe that as long as the fluid temperature is kept within a normal range and the driver is smooth and controlled with the accelerator, towing in and of itself doesn't harm transmissions, because there are many examples of fwd vehicles towing reliably - including Chryslers, Ford Windstars, and Odysseys. To put it another way, I suspect that if a transmission is going to fail, towing isn't necessarily the primary cause.
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Old 06-27-2008, 02:26 PM   #44
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Don't doubt that this thread has received a lot of mod restraint. A comment pushing our 'Be Nice' policy was just deleted and this thread is receiving a short time out. I will open it after I've taken a short walk -- recommended! It might do us all a world of good.
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*the confused noise of many voices....

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...restraint...
along with the restraint suggestion is this observation, NICELY framed.

-new member, 1 post, controversial topic and NO follow up...

while it's possible this is a simple, sincere, honest question about towing combinations....

and that the o.p. has been chased away by the hubbub* of the loyal forum users...

it is ALSO possible that someone is baiting and catching the unsuspecting fish in the towing seas...

i suspect (without any absolute evidence) that MANY of the crazy-combo towing threads are planted for reasons other than 'help needed'...

so how about everyone spit out the hook and try other topics, where no controversy exist...

are there any of those, bytheby?

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Old 06-27-2008, 03:38 PM   #46
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Sure, let's talk about preferred trailer polishing products, tools, and techniques. Surely there can't be any major controversies over such an innocuous subject?



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Sure, let's talk about preferred trailer polishing products, tools, and techniques. Surely there can't be any major controversies over such an innocuous subject?-Marcus
great topic marcus!

but first lets agree on the simple issue, which has ONLY ONE correct answer...

that being....

what is clearcoat, plasticoat, plasti-kote and clear plasticoat?

with the follow up issue of...

IF i tow at 68 mph, with the fridge running on lp gas will my coatings melt?

before or after the gyms explode?

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Old 06-27-2008, 03:58 PM   #48
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great topic marcus!

but first lets agree on the simple issue, which has ONLY ONE correct answer...

that being....

what is clearcoat, plasticoat, plasti-kote and clear plasticoat?

with the follow up issue of...

IF i tow at 68 mph, with the fridge running on lp gas will my coatings melt?

before or after the gyms explode?

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Excellent point, we must establish those as baseline of course, before we can proceed on to the discusssion about the "best" WD hitch and anti-sway equipment...
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Excellent point, we must establish those as baseline of course, before we can proceed on to the discusssion about the "best" WD hitch and anti-sway equipment...
agree completely.

of course the very notion that w/d hitches and anti-sway equipment are in the LEAST BIT HELPFUL...

well THAT'S another false assumption as i understand it...

whoops, now we're back to towing issues

hey lets solve how to best remove scum from the interior vinyl wall covering,

while using solar recycling toilets on tankless trailers banned from some rv parks...

or which brand of dryer fabric softener sheets, best repels mice?

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just as long as the rest of US can laugh AT YOU too...

oh wait, i mean laugh WITH u right....

serenity now, serenity now....

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Let's see if I can pack the most controversy into a single post...

Will my Airstream suffer catastrophic filliform corrosion while towing my 34' Classic with a Yugo without any WD or sway control at 67 mph, unbalanced Goodyear Marathon tires, Dexter axles without shock absorbers, and running my Dometic "Flash-o-matic" fridge on LP?


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Old 06-27-2008, 05:17 PM   #54
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REPOST!!!!

and sorry terry,

but it takes at least ONE reference to the wbcci...

2 make a truly controversial thread...

and did you STFA first?

for example...

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Does anyone know how to get the sticky stuff off the inside walls when my refrigerator freezer gets cold and my box does not while my black water tank valve does not close all the way and leaves a pile in the middle of the tank of you know what and I have not bought an Airstream yet but this sure is an interesting Internet with a sagging on the left side of my axle should it be turned thirty degrees when I get a bulge on my Dun lop tire which were recalled by the price increase at WBCCI save the Wally campaign? How do I put my dog's name on the forum I am coming calendar rally?
http://www.airforums.com/forums/256461-post39.html

and the answer follow in post 46 or so...

my vote is that everyone should b required to READ THE FIRST 50 POSTS in that thread, before starting a 'nother....

and perhaps the current thread could be exiled to 'game land' and HIJACKING could be moved back where it belongs....

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f472...tml#post256461

as an off topic STICKY...

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Second draft...

Will my Airstream suffer catastrophic filliform corrosion under my WBCCI numbers while towing my 34' Classic with a Yugo without any WD or sway control at 67 mph, unbalanced Goodyear Marathon tires, Dexter axles without shock absorbers, and running my Dometic "Flash-o-matic" fridge on LP?

And no, I just "winged it", as far as search...I'll take my 50 lashes with a limp noodle now...
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ok, that's better,

now don't 4get to blame someone HERE for the problem or include a vendor dispute and wack on the off shore manufacturers...

but it's OFF TOPIC!

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