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Old 09-12-2018, 06:21 AM   #141
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Well at least in my case, it’s a tow vehicle. I’m not going to be piloting any tight corners with a 27’ trailer attached and I’m not dragging that trailer through downtown Chicago.

After ordering the 250 I started looking around where I live to see how many of these things are on the streets. Turns out quite a few, and even bigger. They pull landscaping trailers and are the chassis for huge utility trucks. I’m not a truck guy so I’ve never noticed these things before. But it’s clear that these trucks can get around because I see them in alleys and on really narrow city streets all the time.

Anyway, I’m not sure what CR was comparing the 250 to. It’s a big truck and to me it handled like a big truck (actually much better than I was expecting).
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Old 09-12-2018, 06:25 AM   #142
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You will be fine with the 250. No need to over-think this, and end up with analysis paralysis.

There are times in each journey when you have to resist the temptation to keep looking in the rear-view mirror.

This is one of those times!



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"Once a journey is designed, equipped, and put in process, a new factor enters and takes over. A trip, a safari, an exploration, is an entity, different from all other journeys. It has personality, temperament, individuality, uniqueness. A journey is a person in itself; no two are alike. And all plans, safeguards, policing, and coercion are fruitless. We find after years of struggle that we do not take a trip; a trip takes us. Tour masters, schedules, reservations, brass-bound and inevitable, dash themselves to wreckage on the personality of the trip. Only when this is recognized can the blown-in-the glass bum relax and go along with it. Only then do the frustrations fall away. In this a journey is like marriage. The certain way to be wrong is to think you control it."
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Old 09-12-2018, 06:30 AM   #143
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You will be fine with the 250. No need to over-think this, and end up with analysis paralysis!
Nope none of that here. I already placed my order and am totally good with it.

I was telling s friend the other dayóI donít get my truck until Dec/January and donít get my trailer until March. Itís going to be the longest school year ever and Iím not even in school!
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Old 09-12-2018, 06:35 AM   #144
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Well at least in my case, itís a tow vehicle. Iím not going to be piloting any tight corners with a 27í trailer attached and Iím not dragging that trailer through downtown Chicago.

After ordering the 250 I started looking around where I live to see how many of these things are on the streets. Turns out quite a few, and even bigger. They pull landscaping trailers and are the chassis for huge utility trucks. Iím not a truck guy so Iíve never noticed these things before. But itís clear that these trucks can get around because I see them in alleys and on really narrow city streets all the time.

Anyway, Iím not sure what CR was comparing the 250 to. Itís a big truck and to me it handled like a big truck (actually much better than I was expecting).
I live full time in my Airstream so my F250 is my daily driver. Rarely do I have to avoid going somewhere because of its size. Mostly happens if I'm trying to find parallel or parking deck parking in a city. But you learn to adapt.

Before sightseeing I use Google streetview to see the height restrictions in parking decks. Or I look for surface parking.

Small price to pay for much more satisfying towing experience. And I actually love driving the truck. Passengers are constantly surprised at how comfortable it is in motion.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:20 PM   #146
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And glue is only used in certain areas, like the roof panel.


A combination of glue and rivets are used throughout the body and bed with very little welding.
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Old 09-12-2018, 09:32 PM   #147
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Hah, randomly came across this review from Consumer Reports. I'm sure the owners are reviewing it more accurately.


Laughable review.
The FX4 suspension includes Hill Decent and Skid plates.No change in suspension firmness.
It did come with phony (junk )Rancho shocks (that were actually softer riding )up until 2018 when they were discontinued.
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Old 09-13-2018, 08:56 PM   #148
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Saw a post few back regarding 4x4 vs 4x2. You only need 4x4 when you "need 4x4"! Best of intentions...we just left Capital Reef National Park where we boondocked up on a bluff, overlooking the park...beautiful location and dark sky night...but I digress...(like BHO!) LoLÖ.anyway, getting in was pretty straight forward; coming out, I had to navigate up a short incline, and turn right to stay on road...rear tires started slipping, plenty of torque, but I needed 4x4 to stop the tires from spinning and get up slowly on to the road...just saying, an example of where I needed it.

Also...power running boards....had them on my platinum F150 and now on my king ranch F250...wife's idea, but we love them. Never a problem..
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Old 09-14-2018, 08:55 AM   #149
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Saw a post few back regarding 4x4 vs 4x2. You only need 4x4 when you "need 4x4"! Best of intentions...we just left Capital Reef National Park where we boondocked up on a bluff, overlooking the park...beautiful location and dark sky night...but I digress...(like BHO!) LoLÖ.anyway, getting in was pretty straight forward; coming out, I had to navigate up a short incline, and turn right to stay on road...rear tires started slipping, plenty of torque, but I needed 4x4 to stop the tires from spinning and get up slowly on to the road...just saying, an example of where I needed it.

Also...power running boards....had them on my platinum F150 and now on my king ranch F250...wife's idea, but we love them. Never a problem..
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.... but ... did you have a fully locking rear axle to try on the same situation?

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.... but ... did you have a fully locking rear axle to try on the same situation?

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Nice to have when heading in a straight line but not useful with sharp turns or pavement.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:49 AM   #151
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Nice to have when heading in a straight line but not useful with sharp turns or pavement.
Hi

Just to be clear, on the F-250 this is an optional "manually controlled" lock up and not one of the "limited slip" things.

Can't say that 4x4 or manual lockup ever really seemed to be a need on dry pavement. Same thing with sharp turns at speed. In the cases that something *was* needed to pull out of a "problem" an electronic of manual full lockup has been pretty useful for me.

Why the yack about this?

When you put 4x4 on a truck a lot of things change. The weight goes up, cost goes up, and the suspension heads in a "not tow friendly" direction. With a locking drive axle, not much at all changes (other than a small(er) price bump).

Yes indeed, the real answer will always be "have it all". There will always be some weird situation that can only be worked out with a winch .... (and a lot of cable)

One *might* try to avoid some of those situations .... a truck yesterday proved that just because the posted limit is 80, going that fast in a driving rain is a quick route off the road .... From what I could see, he wasn't going to drive out of that one ....

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Old 09-15-2018, 09:59 AM   #152
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.... but ... did you have a fully locking rear axle to try on the same situation?

Bob
The locking diff on my F350 has come in handy in wet weather. People will see a trailer slowing for a light and immediately position to go around it when the light changes and the road narrows. Without lockup I will end up #10 in line. With lockup...maybe one car will make it 😎
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Old 09-15-2018, 02:48 PM   #153
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The locking diff on my F350 has come in handy in wet weather. People will see a trailer slowing for a light and immediately position to go around it when the light changes and the road narrows. Without lockup I will end up #10 in line. With lockup...maybe one car will make it
4x4 and locking diffs in a full size truck are archaic at best. Sure, they'll get you out of a bind. The operation might as well be akin to farm equipment. Full time 4WD is where it's at. Always sure footed, and one doesn't have to consciously enable it when needed, or after loosing traction and digging in.

3/4 and 1 ton trucks are great for burdening loads, but really come with some compromises.
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So many misinformed posters on this thread.Wow
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