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Old 08-05-2015, 08:02 AM   #1
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Help me spec my Ecoboost F150

Im settled on getting the 3.5l Ecoboost 145" wb and mulling over the finer points of specing out my perfect truck. Yes most have these have probably been touched on in various threads across this and other forums, but Im hoping for one focused dialogue from those that have experience in a similar use case to help finalize the decisions. FWIW we have a 72 23 Safari and tow with the X5D (tow mirrors) at this point. We dont need to change and love the way the X5d pulls the trailer. If I had to nitpick the only complaints I have is that we need to use extension mirrors. The country boy in me is itching for a truck again. Usage will be around the Northeast and ADK region.

Tow Mirrors Of course the Tow Mirrors are going to provide more visibility, but Ive heard they rob up to 1mpg. Let me hear your feedback pulling 23-25 trailers. Our older 8 width should help a bit. Can you see decently with the standard mirrors? How about on a 86 trailer?

Payload Impact of Options This is one area I havent found many answers to. How much do the various options subtract from the Payload? Im guessing the dual pane sunroof is a beefy option. Just wondering how big of a hunk it eats away. The packages I'm interested in are
-Dual panel sunroof
-Tailgate step
-Adaptive Cruise

Gearing/ Should I wait till the new rumored 10spd comes out? Thinking the 3.55 rear end (if it can be had with MaxTow Pkg) and the new transmission will provide the best balance of everyday use as well as do an admirable job towing. Not in this tow vehicles lifetime would I ever see us going beyond a 25 unit, so Im not interested in planning for the future. Should I consider the 3.31?

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Old 08-05-2015, 08:19 AM   #2
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Contact Andrew Thomson at Can Am Rv. Get his input on what matters most for stability.

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Old 08-05-2015, 09:10 AM   #3
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I haven't looked at the newer specs, with our 2014 Lariat (and almost all options), we ended up with a usable payload of 1610lbs. Basically, the Lariat options stripped out just over 300lbs off the maximum payload the F150 has when configured with 4x4, max tow, max payload. The AC/heat in the seats is worth the payload loss, the chrome and sunroof maybe not so much (it does look nice). Love the tailgate step (I'm short).

IIRC, max tow automatically includes the 3.75 gear. I would anticipate unknown needs and go with max. My only gripe with the truck is payload, I didn't anticipate wanting more payload.

I don't know about the mileage drop, but I like the mirrors extending, otherwise I would have much less visibility since our 27fb is wider that the truck.
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Old 08-05-2015, 10:52 AM   #4
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Thanks Mixedpuppy. I should note this will be a 2015 or newer so there's been some significant changes around payloads resultant to the aluminum body.

Regarding Andy's pov on stability, I follow his recommendations fairly closely, see my current TV, but he's not a ford dealer so I'm afraid his input isn't that helpful with regard to my specific questions.
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Old 08-05-2015, 12:10 PM   #5
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I cannot speak for the Ford, but in the Ram the Sunroof takes off nearly 60lbs of payload. That Ford sunroof is beautiful, and I imagine, HEAVY. Leather seats, heavy. Console, Heavy. Premium sounds, more speakers, subwoofer = HEAVY.

Not spot on numbers, but you can take a guess yourself. Good luck.
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Old 08-05-2015, 01:03 PM   #6
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2015 F150 have reduced GVWR ratings so payloads seem to be about the same as 2014 models except for King Rang/Plantinums. This is the actual payload shown on the door load sticker. Those trim levels gained payload. XLTs, Lariats seem to be about the same 1600 to 1700. I was hoping for 2000lb payload for an XLT Supercrew XLT 156" wb but didn't materialize. I don't like the seating and door arrangement of the Supercabs with have the highest payload without ordering HD Payload Pkg which seems to be delayed until next year.

Can't find any examples of F150s at my local dealers that have the tow mirrors. I'd miss having them. Not so much the larger mirror but the wide angle 2nd mirror is great for keeping track of my Airstream tires in tight turns to avoid obstructions.

Stiil F150 seems to have better payloads than other 1/2t manufacturers.

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Old 08-05-2015, 04:46 PM   #7
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@Boldadventure - good info on the sunroof. 60# and I'd go for it. My guestimate for Fords dual panel was 150# +/-. Hoping to find some real world numbers from someone that has check doors of similar spec'd trucks. It will be a Lariat so Leather/Console are happening. I'm not paying for a factory sound upgrade and don't want the weight so that's out. Pretty much the options in my original post are the only ones on the maybe lineup. Everything else is what it is.

@KJRitchie- You're probably right they will be lower than what I'm dreaming of. For now it's not so much what the number is, but the deviation the options that are on my "maybe" list could create.

It's not like our trailer is a monster and we roll real light, Cabinets are empty and trailer only loaded with what we need for the trip. Less than 10k for TV and Trailer at last weighting with the x5.
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Old 08-05-2015, 05:05 PM   #8
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But if you travel with dogs, you want that sunroof. Not for the sun but for the ventilation when parked and you want to ensure the cab doesn't over heat for the dogs. At least that's what I do - crack the windows and crack the sunroof and the cab will stay cooler. Obviously there's a limit to this method when it gets very warm.

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Old 08-05-2015, 10:26 PM   #9
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ford published a guide that has the weight of every accessory. (at least they did in 2012) my truck delivered weight was over the estimate by 50#.

make sure your state doesn't have a weight limit on passenger plates. ny is 5500#.
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:35 AM   #10
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My truck is a 2007. I put tow mirrors on it in 2012. I can't tell a difference in fuel economy.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:15 AM   #11
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I have a 2013 Ecoboost with nearly every option but I don't think the weights that I could provide would be very relevant for the current version.

I used the Ford online configurator to spec my truck and found it very helpful. For example, some of the options I wanted; e.g., max tow and payload were not offered without the 3.73 gears. That may have changed but I would try the configurator. As a result this truck will never achieve the fuel economy Ford quotes, but I'm satisfied with its lifetime 12 mpg towing average.

I tow a 2014 Flying Cloud 25FB. The truck is great but I wish the tow mirrors extended another 2 or 3 inches. I love this truck and it is quieter than our Mercedes and BMW sedans.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:45 AM   #12
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We have a 2013 F150 SuperCrew with the MaxTow and a 6.5' bed. It tows our 27' FC without a problem. I would really recommend the maxtow mirrors and the other oil coolers and trailer brake controller. With your lighter trailer the rest is your preference. Great choice for a truck!
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:38 PM   #13
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F-150 Ecoboost

We have a 2014 fully loaded w/ tow package, F-150 Lariat. 3.5L Ecoboost towing a 2015 25' FB Flying Cloud. The truck pulls well, quiet, shifts nicely in the tow/haul mode, and I added after market mirror extenders and a rear-view wireless camera for additional assistance in passing, parking and backing in. What I am disappointed in is the mileage experienced thus far. Approaching 50% or more of the total allowable tow weight, we're averaging 10MPG at 60MPH on most level Interstate travel (I10 E-W) so far. When not towing, We travel at 65MPH and average 22-23 MPG. I am considering an upgrade to the F250 diesel. That seems to be a drastic reduction in MPG when towing. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong? Others?

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Old 08-06-2015, 01:10 PM   #14
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My 2014 EB 3.5 Supercrew is averaging 18-19 mpg in non towing combined driving and 13-13.5 towing my 3000 lb Flying Cloud.

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