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Old 03-28-2016, 02:07 PM   #71
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Just for the record.

Curb weight is never constant. GVWR minus curb weight is how much load you can carry at any given time without exceeding GVWR, which is the payload capability. GVWR, GCVWR, GAWR are the Ram's ratings.
This is the definition of curb weight from Ram's website at http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

"Curb weight: The weight of a vehicle without any passengers or cargo, but including all necessary fuel, fluids and standard equipment."

Curb weight is clearly constant.
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Old 03-28-2016, 02:50 PM   #72
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This may also apply to tire pressure settings. I received an email from my 2016 RAM 2500 notifying me that my tire pressures were out of spec. I had set my rears at 74 for a better ride while not towing. Apparently the truck wants me to stick to the 60/80 settings specified on the door sticker.

So....if I were involved in an accident and if the insurance company had access to the data and concluded that I was intentionally running pressures lower than specified on the door sticker....my claim could be denied and I might be liable to damages to others. How Orwellian!
How did the truck know where to send this e-mail? More to the point, where else is information being sent and for what purpose? Orwellian indeed!
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Old 03-28-2016, 03:45 PM   #73
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UConnect is the dash mounted info and control center that includes GPS, systems monitoring, sat radio etc. It requires an email during registration. It ain't 1999 anymore.

UConnect services can also track your truck if it is stolen.
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:20 PM   #74
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Your wondering how they know? Got this email out of the blue about 10 days into ownership of the new truck!
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I got one of those emails too.

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I think 4-5 years is optimistic. I have my fingers crossed my Cummins will out perform needing as much maintenance, or should I say failures, as I had in my Powerstroke 6.0 and 6.7. Even if the Cummins had the same issues at least there is no issue on the Cummins that requires a 'cab off' repair.

Just the pollution crap on ALL the diesels will potentially never let you hit a point of return on your investment on a diesel over a 6.4 gasser. If you are an interstate commercial hauler pulling max GVWR, yes the diesel will probably pay. But for our needs, I don't think so.

Why did I go back to diesel. It's an emotional thing. I just love diesels. Didn't say I made the best decisions.


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I though about the Ram 2500 with the 6.4L but when I saw the Ram 6.4L tow on Fast Lane Truck last year compared to the Ram CTD I decided not to consider the gas engine. Didn't like the Ford F250 6.2L nor the Chevy 2500 6.0L. I decided to go with the diesel and chose the Ram CTD. As regards to price difference between gas vs diesel I've seen plenty of Airform members chose a Platinum F150 EB that cost more than my Ram 2500 CTD Big Horn. I traded bling for the Cummins. We considered the Tradesman Cummins version which would have saved us even more money but decided on the Big Horn version. I just justify purchasing our preowned Airstream and a new Ram 2500 as a "mid life crisis"

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Diesel is truly the way to go for towing performance. If the Powerwagon came with diesel I'd own one. But when people talk about buying them because of the better MPG, it's just a feel-good thing. Big picture you aren't saving more money with the better MPG than your gasser buddy. I just don't see the need to justify it from that point of view. It's semantics I know. I'm just nit-picky, so forgive me.

Totally makes sense in a power/performance view however, diesel wins hands down, especially if we are talking about turbo diesel.

I think towing big is where it's a good consideration.

But if you want to save money, tow moderately and have lower over all cost, a gasser might be better.

My purchase decision probably makes less sense to most since I bought a truck that has lower payload than a standard 2500 just because it has factory lockers front and rear. But I wanted to go off-roading even more this year, so here we are.
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Your wondering how they know? Got this email out of the blue about 10 days into ownership of the new truck!
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What does the "detailed report" give you guys?
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Old 03-28-2016, 06:21 PM   #77
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What does the "detailed report" give you guys?
Voting record and bowser history for the past 10 years.
Sorry... Couldn't resist!
More of the same, any warning lights that have illuminated are reported.
It's way past 1984 baby!
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Bruce, vehicles that test themselves and sent out reports. More good than bad for most people.

We were out today and when getting in the new Ram to come home she got an advisory on our iPhone "17 minutes from home, traffic conditions normal". Traveling down the interstate we get an advisory on the GPS advising of an accident or traffic accident and the mile markers involved long before reaching it. Oil change intervals are determined by sensors in the engine according to need, not miles. Unlock/lock/start the truck from 2000 miles away. A monthly use report, and the list goes on.

These functions can be viewed as tools or spies or both. Love it.
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Bruce, vehicles that test themselves and sent out reports. More good than bad for most people.

We were out today and when getting in the new Ram to come home she got an advisory on our iPhone "17 minutes from home, traffic conditions normal". Traveling down the interstate we get an advisory on the GPS advising of an accident or traffic accident and the mile markers involved long before reaching it. Oil change intervals are determined by sensors in the engine according to need, not miles. Unlock/lock/start the truck from 2000 miles away. A monthly use report, and the list goes on.

These functions can be viewed as tools or spies or both. Love it.
I love it all too!
The benefits are awesome. In case anyone is wondering these technologies are not exclusive to Ram... Every manufacturer has their version of this kind of reporting!
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Your wondering how they know? Got this email out of the blue about 10 days into ownership of the new truck!
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I've never received such an email for my 2015. My free internet UConnect has expired. Seemed lame and expensive. I could upgrade my UConnect 8.4 with Navigation but its $600 so I won't be doing that either.

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Old 03-28-2016, 07:26 PM   #81
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I've never received such an email for my 2015. My free internet UConnect has expired. Seemed lame and expensive. I could upgrade my UConnect 8.4 with Navigation but its $600 so I won't be doing that either.

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In the "for what it's worth" department, my 2010 F-150 had a vehicle report it wanted me to activate. I never did...
I'm guessing it would have given much of the same information.
It probably activated with the UConnect Access registration. I actually like the UConnect Access as it shows me where the truck is (in case there is any question...), I can lock, unlock, remote start and stop from anywhere there is cell coverage and I can search for destinations on the app and send them to the truck so they are there the next time I start it.
It's kind of slick!
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If all this information is private then I can agree with you, but something tells me that the information is far from private. I wonder what it would take to prevent the truck from phoning home? One of these days you might get an e-mail ticket from the the DMV for speeding because your vehicle ratted you out! Big Brother is watching you...
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My mileage computer has proven to be remarkably accurate over e first 3000 miles of ownership of my 2016 Ram 2500.
I'm pitting it against my hand calculations every time I fill up and it's been within .3 mpg so far!
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I'm getting the same results as you. My hand calculations are so close to the mileage computer I'm stopping the manual check. My Ford 6.7 was a lying SOB :-) I think it was just giving you a wish number.
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In the "for what it's worth" department, my 2010 F-150 had a vehicle report it wanted me to activate. I never did...
I'm guessing it would have given much of the same.
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My 2011 Ford 6.7 had a lot of what my Ram has now. Difference is the Ram stuff works and it's intuitive, not like as if Microsoft Windows 95 was the interface. Oh, for got, Ford's software released in on model year 2011 was developed for them by Microsoft.. What was Ford thinking? Ford customers complained so much about the bugs, glitches and user unfriendliness if you complained, Ford up graded your whole system for free to their newer non-Microsft system. I was one of those upgraders. It was much better but still not up to par with the UConnect. But like all tech, they will all leap frog each other.

As I degress, it's interesting that Microsoft has about zero foot print left in this high tech auto market, and it's not like they tried, they just blew it.
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