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Old 06-18-2013, 11:49 PM   #71
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I think you are coming around to what makes good sense for a TV for you and your family- a late model 6 (or more) speed gasser. Look at all of them and then buy the one you like the best.

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Old 06-19-2013, 12:16 AM   #72
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MAN I wish carmax offered "NOT" filters
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:29 AM   #73
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2008 Ford F250 Lariat in Nashville, TN- 9298620 at carmax.com

2006 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 LT in Baton Rouge, LA- 9406476 at carmax.com

2006 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 LT in Buena Park, CA- 9361482 at carmax.com

The sierras and the ram 2500 gassers offered no earlier models...mostly gently used only....

THink there are some great deals on f250 gassers out there too...

kinda narrowing in now I think.

Love the look of the ram 2500's....

Any big differences in these gassers?

Mostly for the purposes of this TV, I want this to be nice and peppy and easy to pull with...im sure they all fit that bill...just looking for reasons to choose one over the other.....Im going to test drive them all monday and tuesday.

Que brand war - no seriously though - if there are substantive differences in these models, let me know.....mostly my test drive will dictate perhaps...

I need a breakdown of the specs in these three models and carefully review
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:37 AM   #74
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silly thing about these used 3/4 ton gassers though is that most of these I selected are around 25-28K....warranties appear to be up on them (5 year right?)...which would mean I would purchase about a 2K carmax warranty....new for some are right at 30-33K....which includes 5 year 100K warranty from manufacturer...which makes a 2008 model end up costing me about the same as a 2013 model....

need to find a used one for 22K or less if it is to truly save me much.

New is sounding nicer and nicer

That hemi 2500 sure looks good brand new in dark blue - contrast well with that aluminum, 0% financing
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:35 AM   #75
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I have not driven a Ram, but among Chevy/GMC, Ford, Nissan, and Toyota you already know what I am gonna say. Go test drive them all and see if you don't agree.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:13 AM   #76
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i love toyota but cannot get comfortable with respect to stated limits regarding payload

Btw, your 30' classic tongue weight is 776 lbs, the 28' flying cloud's is 976.

That is a 200lb difference.

I know you are cool with your truck with respect to payload...im not sure how much your's tends to weigh...but it obviously works for you. I suspect that my payload needs may unfortunately be different going forward...which sucks because I do really like them yotas
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:15 AM   #77
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As a diesel owner (the infamous Ford 6.0) I'll say that I'm going to think long and hard before I buy another diesel. As mentioned, fuel is more expensive, oil changes are more expensive, fuel filters are expensive, etc. On the other hand, there are upsides, some of which have also been mentioned - it's REALLY nice to put your foot down and have the truck move like the trailer isn't there. I've caught myself doing 65-70 mph climbing the mountains on the PA Turnpike, several times. And filling up at truck diesel pumps is nice, too - they have larger nozzles, and the credit card limits are much higher, so it's faster, and easier to get in and out of, too. You get better fuel mileage, although with diesel prices being higher than gas now, I'm not sure you're actually saving much money with this. Yeah, I'm torn - hence the "think long and hard" part.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:26 AM   #78
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Now you know why I bought a used V10 Ford Excursion for $7000. I don't have $40k+ to spend on a pickup. The running gear is the same as an F250/F350. An E250 or E350 van is not a bad tow vehicle and you have plenty of room. The big problem with those is finding one with seats in it that is not a cargo van. I grew up with vans and you could put just about anything in one. I use to carry my motorcycle around in the back of one when I was in grad school. The Excursion is ok but it is nice to have a van and you can put a bike in the back without taking the wheels off it. Your stuff is also out of the rain and locked up.

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Old 06-19-2013, 08:50 AM   #79
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hmmm...havent given the van route much thought...i figure a topper on the truck will keep stuff secure and covered for the most part and fill that gap...

I went through a similar but different debate 4 years ago when I bought my first truck.

I needed to pull a small bass boat, wanted 4x4 though for primative landings (heck, even putting in where there is no landing at some ponds) - I went through looking at new and new/used...finally I was like "screw this" - and I bought an old toyota pickup - my current 1997 T100...runs kinda doggy, but its really reliable even at 179K miles.

I almost bought a new truck off of lots a couple times though before that...just could not find a price that I was happy with for a tacoma or a fronteir, or silverado 1/2 ton...too much for that limited of use.

It is quite tempting to find a more used one....Im not that adverse to it...but given that this will be for family use, for possibly some longer trips, and long term use in general....and the fact the wife has agreed...im likely to splurge and keep this truck around for a long while....we shall see...I may troll around and consider more used...given I will drive the darn think <5K miles per year....I will be thinking indeed on this "long and hard" as Skater said.

The cost of the diesels plus the nuggets of skepticism that I have gleaned are making it easy for me...if I lieved out west though and planned on a ton of mountain driving, that would be more difficult...I know that a 3/4 ton gasser can do what I need it to do, including the less frequent mountain type terrain with the AS...perhaps just not as peppy and powerful as the diesels...I can accept that compromise.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:55 AM   #80
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Truck toppers have real crappy locks on them and most can be jerked open pretty easily with no tools so don't get a false sense of security there. Any street person can pop one open with no tools.

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Old 06-19-2013, 09:00 AM   #81
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storing gas in a van or suv for generator? I guess you could get a propane generator?

Seems like I remember reading on here folks having a special storage for the gas in their SUV without it smelling...
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:04 AM   #82
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Now you know why I bought a used V10 Ford Excursion for $7000. I don't have $40k+ to spend on a pickup. The running gear is the same as an F250/F350. An E250 or E350 van is not a bad tow vehicle and you have plenty of room. The big problem with those is finding one with seats in it that is not a cargo van. I grew up with vans and you could put just about anything in one. I use to carry my motorcycle around in the back of one when I was in grad school. The Excursion is ok but it is nice to have a van and you can put a bike in the back without taking the wheels off it. Your stuff is also out of the rain and locked up.

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There's a blog out there where they use a GMC Savana Extended Diesel van as a TV - a family of five, they just finished a year long trip. Mali Mish - An Airstream Travel Blog

They had their van converted for passenger use and still had a huge trunk space. From what I've read, they loved this setup.

Here's a direct link to the van page: http://malimish.com/blog/2009/02/04/...na-diesel-van/
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cool...ill have to check that blog out when I get time later
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:40 AM   #84
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im not crazy about the aesthetic of a utility type van...not that this precludes selection of it as a TV per se...but it is a factor I will admit
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