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Old 06-18-2013, 12:31 AM   #15
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I thought so too of course, but the whole blowout scenario is scary...but I suspect such concerns are universal...what if you blow out in the front?

I am still undecided on 28 vs. 30 sofa vs. 30 bunkhouse...we lean toward 30 as I think it will do the job for 10K less and can accept the 2-3 feet loss...but seeing them in person will help us determine...then we will know what TV we want...

Although, I hear folks pull the 30' with tundra 5.7L V8....payload is the question though im still wondering....
Hi, you beat me to it. "what if you blow out in the front?"
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Old 06-18-2013, 12:45 AM   #16
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Was taking a moment to talk to one of my patients (a war veteran, I work at the VA hospital)...he drives a work truck in his job, ford f350....says he once saw a truck pulling a trailer and blow out a rare truck tire and nearly have an extremely bad wreck....and as such he was recommending a duly...

It seems in my reading, almost no one recommends such....I figure something is a bit off about this advice...and I wanted to hear from folks about this because my inexperienced self somehow found his point compelling....

I figure this will be an easy one for you all, but I feel the need to ask, if not for any other reason to understand the fallacy in this point?

Now, if you could somehow make me figure out if I want 3/4 ton or 1/2 ton...the more I read the more confused I get...mainly I am uncertain about how much payload I will eventually need. sorry, that may be better for another thread..
I second the suggestion of others here that recommend that you first choose the cart then the horse. I fell in love with the F250 SuperDuty diesel, but the wife said, "NO". So I've decided on a new approach. Since the general consensus in these forums is that a 1/2 will work for anything up to 25' and a 3/4 ton above 27', my new plan is to convince her that she really wants the 27', that way I can justify the F250. So far, I've gotten her to agree to move up from the 23' to the 25', only two more feet to go.

A word of warning though, if you are going to go with a 1/2 ton and a 25' AS, make sure that you don't go over the payload capacity of the truck. It will depend on many people will travel with you and how much "stuff" you need to bring along for the ride. You can find good discussions of how to do the calculations here in the forums and the Trailer Life 2013 Towing Guide also has an article on choosing the right tow vehicle. When you are out looking at trucks, check the sticker in the door jam for the payload capacity. Also, Ford, Chevy, and Toyota have payload information on their websites, though it may be a little bit difficult to find (Dodge probably does too, but I've never looked for it). Keep in mind too, that different trim and equipment levels in the same truck line can have wildly different payload capacities. After doing your research confirm things with the dealer before you buy, but don't take their word for it, make them show you something from the manufacturer. For example, the F150 Lariat EcoBoost 4x4 Super Crew with a 157" wheel base can tow 11,100 pounds and has a payload of 1,840 pounds according to the brochure when equipped with the max tow package, but the best I've ever been able to configure online is a payload of 1,560 pounds.

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Old 06-18-2013, 06:23 AM   #17
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Over the years I have blown tires in every position on the tow vehicle and a trailer tires both tandem and single axle. Usually bringing in an old trailer from a campground. In the old days car tires blew much more often.

If your weight distribution system is dialed in properly the challenge is knowing you have blown a tire. You can literally not feel it from a steering input point of view. If the road is smooth you may not notice the ride either.

Make sure you are hooked up right and don't worry.

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Old 06-18-2013, 06:51 AM   #18
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GinMame said " I fell in love with the F250 SuperDuty diesel, but the wife said, "NO". So I've decided on a new approach."

I hated my husband's old F250s. They were noisy and smelled like diesel. I love his new one. It is quiet, comfortable and does not smell like a diesel. It is a towing machine.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:55 AM   #19
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I have seen a lot of wrecks, I need a tank. A Dually will damage your trailer. A 250 would not be bad but may not be needed.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:15 AM   #20
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Not sure about a dually but I don't think you would need one. As said in an earlier post buying a TV can be challenging especially when determing payload etc. So I went with a new F250 diesel last year anf have not looked back. I don't have to worry about my payload, it pulls the hills great, does not drop speed even on 13% inclines when in cruise and tow mode. Milage isn't bad 19 with no trailer and aroud 13 to 14 with trailer. Diesel fuel right now where I live is less expensive then premium but will go up in winter as the demand is greaterd because it is used for heating.

More then I need, many may so,but the security of having more power and weight carrying capability provides ease of mind.
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I tow with a F350 diesel single rear wheels with an old Reese WD hitch and Reese friction sway control. The 32 foot AS tows like a dream. Had to make an abrupt lane change on I90 north on the way back from Myrtle beach and the trailer followed with no sway, like it was part of the truck. You need to know the load you plan on pulling with all the extra you can fit, generator, canoe/ kayak, etc. Then buy a TV that is rated for that amount of weight.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:48 AM   #22
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I thought so too of course, but the whole blowout scenario is scary...but I suspect such concerns are universal...what if you blow out in the front?
With any blowout, the steps are:

1. Do not panic. This, by far, is the most important step, and I think the one that gets overlooked most often, leading to the accidents we always hear about.
2. Bring everything back under control. This involves - believe it or not - accelerating. Check it out:How to Handle a Tire Blowout in Your RV - YouTube Do not slam on the brakes.
3. Pull to the side of the road.

That said, when was the last time you had an honest-to-goodness blowout? They're pretty rare with car and light truck tires. I've had many flat tires and all of them were fast or slow leaks that gave me plenty of time to react. The only true blowout I've ever had was an ancient tire on our trailer.

As for the dually question: Nah, not necessary. My dad had a dually, and the two trucks he's had since then were both singles. They tow a 34' Airstream with it.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:59 AM   #23
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great point about WD hitch...I had not thought of that...good to know that with proper hitch you will not jacknife or whatever...or at least lower risk of it.

my current internal debate about 1/2 ton vs. 3/4 comes down to payload indeed. I simply have to sit down and play out some worst case weight hypotheticals regarding stuff I may load up for various trips. We have a canoe (a possibility for some trips for sure, 2 mountain bikes, a generator at some point is likely, Im not sure if we will get one of those toppers perhaps...that is a possibility...various foods, clothing (my wife does not pack light always), camera gear + tripod, portable grill I guess, extra gas for generator,

Then there is the question if we plan on doing any boondocking...then extra water, etc..

I dont know...I need to add up these weights and see if I am "marginal" or "exceeding"...

We shall see I guess...but I find the multitude of anecdotes about the ease of towing with diesel, the power, very enticing...this vehicle will only be used as a TV..not a daily

ANother thing, is that I like to buy used..a used tundra is damn expensive through carmax...unbelievable..over 30K...
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thanks skater...very informative...I read this fact about accelerating in another book. and it was discussed in the "long long honeymoon" vlog as I recall....the reation to brake would be hard to overcome I would think...but critical.
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Dually?

I sometimes wonder if the big truck crowd is having some sort of tow vehicle arms race; the point isn't what is appropriate to tow your vintage trailer, but rather to have the biggest, baddest truck in the rally. An interesting convergence of delicate vintage aluminum and brawny modern American super trucks.

One of these days we're going to see someone pull up in a dually F650 super duty towing a 1960's Bambi. A prize to whoever shares a photo.

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It is possible that the driver may have a health crisis or just fall asleep while driving so be sure to get a second steering wheel and pedals on the passenger side to eliminate that risk and you'll be good to go. ;-)
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It is possible that the driver may have a health crisis or just fall asleep while driving so be sure to get a second steering wheel and pedals on the passenger side to eliminate that risk and you'll be good to go. ;-)
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"One of these days we're going to see someone pull up in a dually F650 super duty towing a 1960's Bambi. A prize to whoever shares a photo."

Camped in the same campground with a F550 (bright yellow with light bars) pulling about a 27' Airstream. Really nice looking rig.

I talked to one full timer who was over his axle rating on his 250 SW with a 34' Airsteam and more load than I would carry and another with a large motorcycle in the truck bed.

On caravans I have seen 2 duallys, one pulling a 34', one carrying a Boston Whaler on top of the truck and pulling a 28 or so foot Airstream.

I feel over towed with my single axle 2500. But I love being over capacity.
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